Mageth

Here's a good writeup on the flat-earth cosmology of the Bible.

Mageth

Read the article I posted, Magus. It's those that claim the Bible teaches a spherical earth that have the weakest arguments.

Magus55

According to JF & B commentaries:

8. Again, the devil taketh him up--"conducteth him," as before.
into--or "unto"
an exceeding high mountain, and showeth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them--Luke ( Luk 4:5 ) adds the important clause, "in a moment of time"; a clause which seems to furnish a key to the true meaning. That a scene was presented to our Lord's natural eye seems plainly expressed. But to limit this to the most extensive scene which the natural eye could take in, is to give a sense to the expression, "all the kingdoms of the world," quite violent. It remains, then, to gather from the expression, "in a moment of time"-- which manifestly is intended to intimate some supernatural operation--that it was permitted to the tempter to extend preternaturally for a moment our Lord's range of vision, and throw a "glory" or glitter over the scene of vision: a thing not inconsistent with the analogy of other scriptural statements regarding the permitted operations of the wicked one. In this case, the "exceeding height" of the "mountain" from which this sight was beheld would favor the effect to be produced.

Sci_Fidelity

But that's just the point- it CAN be interpreted that way- this is true of many verses.

Magus55

No, actually reading that said I see many blatant errors and poor attempts at understanding scripture. They use the tree in daniel as proof of a flat earth.


Dan 4:10 Thus [were] the visions of mine head in my bed; I saw, and behold a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof [was] great.

The tree was a dream, not reality. That is the dumbest attempt at proving a flat earth if i've ever seen one, when the scripture clearly shows, it was a dream, while he was sleeping. So no, the earth does not have to be flat, since the tree isn't real.

All that site goes to show is even so called Christians can read the Bible without any study or investigation and make a false claim. All they are doing is pull at straws, and making some very weak assumptions to fit their ideal.

Mageth

What the hell does that mean? My moon and slide show solutions makes more sense.

Sci_Fidelity

If it were truly a perfect inspired text, this would not be possible (at least if I were god, I would have made sure of that.)

Magus55

Why would it not be possible? People will always have interpretations and opinions, no matter what the Bible says. Only through study and the Holy Spirit can one see the true meaning of the Bible.

And its a good thing you aren't God.

Mageth

Wow, that sounds familiar...

So, that's one verse of many quoted on the site. I find the verses that talk about the vault of the heavens far more interesting and revealing, personally. In any case, the Bible describes a cosmology strikingly similar to Babylonian/Egyptian cosmologies. Not surprising, since much of the myth of the Bible was "borrowed" from their mythologies.

And I'm curious: do you think believing in a flat earth would disqualify you from being a Christian?

Sci_Fidelity

Posted by Magus:



If you were an omnipotent god, would you not create a text that is totally unambigous? For that matter, why rely on fallible humans at all? Why not just write the thing yourself?



Right. I wouldn't exist.