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aa5874 · 02-04-2013, 10:15 PM

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Really? The text does not connect the one group to the other? Wow. Your reading skills must be better than mine and everyone else's aa. Bravo.

In antiquity, the Therapeutae were connected to Jesus cult CHRISTIANS. See "Church History".

I no longer accept imagination as history.

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1. And they say that this Mark was the first that was sent to Egypt, and that he proclaimed the Gospel which he had written, and first established churches in Alexandria.

2. And the multitude of believers, both men and women, that were collected there at the very outset, and lived lives of the most philosophical and excessive asceticism, was so great, that Philo thought it worth while to describe their pursuits, their meetings, their entertainments, and their whole manner of life.

stephan huller · 02-04-2013, 10:15 PM

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Yeah. You were there.

I guess my grandfather was a liar like Philo. My grandfather, my great grandmother and my father didn't serve time in concentration camps and there was no pogrom against the Jews of Alexandria at the time of Philo. That's why all the Gentile scholars joined the conspiracy. The Jews have all the money because they own the banks and bribed the university professors to invent a holocaust in pagan antiquity. It's all a plot.

Toto · 02-04-2013, 10:16 PM

I will let Pete and tanya have a last reply (or concession?), then I will close this thread and split out the posts on Buddhism, perhaps by tomorrow. The discussion is bringing out the worst in a lot of people here.

Unless there is a reasonable objection.

stephan huller · 02-04-2013, 10:16 PM

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In antiquity, the Therapeutae were connected to Jesus cult CHRISTIANS. See "Church History".

I no longer accept imagination as history.

Really? Philo says they were Christians? Where is that?

Sheshbazzar · 02-04-2013, 10:18 PM

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When the Germans asked my grandfather if he was Jewish in 1940 in the Velodrome in Paris, any guess what his answer was?
The situation in Alexandria was much the same.

Yeah. You were there.

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I guess my grandfather was a liar like Philo. You know those dirty Jews. Can't be trusted.

So tell us all about about your previous life in 1st century Alexandria. Did the Alexandrians have German shepherds, were they armed with Luger's?
Poor Philo couldn't even write the words 'Jew' or 'Jewish' for fear of the Alexandrian Gestapo?
Is it any wonder that people don't take you seriously?

I'm on here day after day defending Judaism and Jewish views. And you have to make them look ridiculous.

Toto · 02-04-2013, 10:18 PM

Stephan Huller - when you start to reply to aa5874, it's time to take a break.

stephan huller · 02-04-2013, 10:24 PM

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So tell us all about about your previous life in 1st century Alexandria.

There are things called 'books' which preserve what happened in previous ages. I don't think you have even read a book, let alone a book about Philo. You certainly haven't read a scholarly book on Philo and what Alexandria was like at the beginning of the Common Era, so what contribution can you possibly make to this discussion?

aa5874 · 02-04-2013, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stephan huller

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In antiquity, the Therapeutae were connected to Jesus cult CHRISTIANS. See "Church History".

I no longer accept imagination as history.

Really? Philo says they were Christians? Where is that?

Philo says they were Jews?? where is that?? What imagination you have!!!

I specifically made reference to "Church History". In antiquity the Therapeutae were associated with the Jesus cult of Christians based on "Church History".

Church History

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3. In the work to which he gave the title, On a Contemplative Life or on Suppliants, after affirming in the first place that he will add to those things which he is about to relate nothing contrary to truth or of his own invention, he says that these men were called Therapeutæ and the women that were with them Therapeutrides.

He then adds the reasons for such a name, explaining it from the fact that they applied remedies and healed the souls of those who came to them, by relieving them like physicians, of evil passions, or from the fact that they served and worshipped the Deity in purity and sincerity.

4. Whether Philo himself gave them this name, employing an epithet well suited to their mode of life, or whether the first of them really called themselves so in the beginning, since the name of Christians was not yet everywhere known, we need not discuss here.

Sheshbazzar · 02-04-2013, 10:37 PM

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So tell us all about about your previous life in 1st century Alexandria.

There are things called 'books' which preserve what happened in previous ages. I don't think you have even read a book, let alone a book about Philo. You certainly haven't read a scholarly book on Philo and what Alexandria was like at the beginning of the Common Era, so what contribution can you possibly make to this discussion?

I believe I've been making a very pointed contribution to this discussion.
The boy is much too big for his britches. So full of himself he cannot even entertain any other viewpoint. Writes like a spoiled child having a temper tantrum. Pathetic.

stephan huller · 02-04-2013, 10:37 PM

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Philo says they were Jews?? where is that?? What imagination you have!!!

Yes what an imagination every scholar who has studied in a reputable university and I share. But the men of real enlightenment and sensibility are of course found right here in this thread. How lucky are those who might stumble upon this treasure trove of information and enlightened discourse. Perhaps one day I will be lucky enough to see you all formally tear up the history books.

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02-04-2013, 10:16 PM	#553
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	I will let Pete and tanya have a last reply (or concession?), then I will close this thread and split out the posts on Buddhism, perhaps by tomorrow. The discussion is bringing out the worst in a lot of people here. Unless there is a reasonable objection.

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Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Stephan Huller - when you start to reply to aa5874, it's time to take a break.

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