Sauron

Now, that *IS* strange.

Earlier you seemed to think that judge's post was spot-on topic for this thread:

But thank you for reminding the other contributors of what they should be concentrating their minds on

Seems like you switch arguments whenever you get your knickers in a twist. How sad.

Actually, the reading comprehension of the audience is fine.

The consistency level of your posts is pretty lame, though. Will you be working on that soon, hmm?

judge

Of course, why didn't I see it?
Thank god we have you here as an impartial observer.

Ray Moscow

I live in Surrey (England) now, but I used to live in Texas when Dubya was governor.

He was a terrible governor -- presiding over far more executions than his predecessors or peers, for example, and occasionally mocking the condemned instead of actually considering their cases -- and he is a worse president.

But no, where I currently live has no bearing on my opinion of Bush nor on the fact that this evangelical political leader is extremely violent in his policies.

Ray

Clouseau

When were you last attacked by evangelicals?

empiricalDeity

That's a good question. I am interested to see any reasons given?

Clouseau

In another thread, maybe.

Ray Moscow

High school, I think. Many bullies turn out to have quite strong religious backgrounds.

However, for accounts of more recent and far deadlier attacks, you should ask some Iraqis. The US military is full of evangelicals, in case you didn't know.

Ray

Sauron

Again:

1. Your claim of evangelical pacifism -- now roundly refuted -- wasn't a claim limited in geography. Where Ray lives is irrelevant, to whether or not your statement is true.

2. Interestingly enough, I can't recall being attacked by the Roman Catholic Church. Hmm. Guess they must be pacifists, contrary to your handwaving. *



* It's almost embarrassing how easy it is to poke holes in Clouseau's arguments.
Note: I said "almost". :rolling:

Clouseau

Really. So the streets and indeed schools of Surrey are quite safe, in this context, anyway, and the notion that evangelicals are even remotely as dangerous to good social order as medieval Catholic officials is utterly preposterous. It's ludicrous that we have even been discussing this.

Sauron

Uh, your claim did not say "Evangelicals in England are pacifist."
Your claim didn't limit any geography at all.

Not that it would matter - I already provided a link to a British evangelical society calling for violent resistance to govt policies. And of course, there's Oliver Cromwell and his reign of terror and persecution to consider.

Here in the New World, we have the so-called pacifist evangelicals in the American south: bible in one hand, lynch rope in the other. And let's not leave out the Manifest Destiny folks, evangelicals who assisted in wiping out native americans in the US and Canada, while claiming a god-given right to their land.

1. The evidence and links I presented say otherwise.
2. Your ducking and dodging of the evidence speaks volumes as well.

Naw. What's ludicrous is that you pretend to have a point, while simultaneously sticking your fingers in your ears and ignoring contrary evidence.