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Old 08-16-2009, 02:30 AM   #81
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Define 'glory'. Did mighty Rome have glory - I don't think so!
'Glory' has more than one meaning. If one measures glory by the conferring of praise, then Rome had glory, since it accumulated much praise. On the other hand, if one measures glory by praiseworthy achievement, then whether Rome was glorious depends on which achievements one thinks merit praise. I presume what steve was saying is that the Jews did not have such a record of great achievement as one might think from the Bible. I think the Bible does exaggerate the military and political power of the ancient Jews, but not everybody would think that military and political power merits praise, even if the Biblical writers regarded it as glorious.
Thank you, you said it more clearly.

For the chosen people of a supreme being, they never really faired very well in biblical times.

By association modern Christians can feel the 'glory and majesty' of the ancient Jews, as IAJ would seem to indicate.
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