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Old 08-23-2006, 12:36 AM   #41
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What did God do for non-Jews? The best thing - he left them alone, most of the time. Well, after playing games with Jonah he forgave Ninveh. Non-Jews who stay out of the way have it best.
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Old 08-23-2006, 05:27 AM   #42
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I guess I used the word favored in the sense that God seemed to favor the Jews in the Old Testament - he talked to them, was concerned for their welfare, led them in battle, promised them the land of milk & honey etc. Meanwhile... what did he do for non-Jews? Other than smite them with his Hebrew armies.
God is represented in Jewish Scripture both as rewarding the Jews and as punishing the Jews. I don't think that's exactly the kind of favouritism you're talking about.
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He showed a special interest in them - but not in other humans (as far as we know?). That's really all I mean. I wanted to know if modern Jews still believe that - or more interestingly, what they believe God thinks of non-Jews.
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Non-Jews are thought to be bound by the covenant of Noah. That is the standard God is supposed to be holding them to. Depending on the source and the interpretations it uses that standard can be viewed as rather easy, something all decent monotheists can do, or disappointingly hard - for some reason people are incapable of coming up with good enough monotheistic belief systems and sticking to decent standards of behavior.
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What is the gist of the covenant of Noah?
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Old 08-24-2006, 05:44 PM   #46
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He showed a special interest in them - but not in other humans (as far as we know?). That's really all I mean. I wanted to know if modern Jews still believe that - or more interestingly, what they believe God thinks of non-Jews.
The belief in a special contract (covenant) between the Jewish people and God is fundamental to Judaism, and that hasn't changed. A religious Jew is not obliged to have a definite view about God's relations with non-Jews, but I think the view most commonly supported in Jewish tradition is that 'the righteous of all nations have a share in the world to come'.
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What is the gist of the covenant of Noah?
Do not murder.
Do not steal.
Do not worship false gods.
Do not be sexually immoral.
Do not eat a limb removed from a live animal.
Do not curse God.
Set up courts and bring offenders to justice.

That's the gist. For more extended discussion, I suggest Googling the terms 'Noahide' and/or 'Noachide'.
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Do not murder.
Do not steal.
Do not worship false gods.
Do not be sexually immoral.
Do not eat a limb removed from a live animal.
Do not curse God.
Set up courts and bring offenders to justice.

That's the gist. For more extended discussion, I suggest Googling the terms 'Noahide' and/or 'Noachide'.
Hey, I like this! Except that #6 is made redundant by #3. But otherwise, this is pretty nice. Yay, I'm allowed to mix my fabrics!
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