Light

What does "holyness" mean to you? Are you supposed to "love" your "hole" and therefore to love your "holy" "father?

Matthem 23 : 27 says that you are to call NO other man father before your OWN Father, and God commands you to "Honor THY Mother and THY Father."

So just who are all of these priests who say, "When you have seen me you have seen the father."?

Are these YOUR holy father's? Guardians of your "hole"?

What are Women supposed to make of this male dominated church, which regards women as a holy hole or a holy cow?

Is this the way in which YOU want the church to represent the Woman you love?

And what about this "When we eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ."? Just what is all of this cannibalism and vampire blood-drinking about?

It all sounds rather PAGAN to me. Is this SCIENCE? It certainlyu does not sound like it.

It sounds a great deal more like Pope worship. But then He is a Pole and all of this nonsense originates from Poland and the Holocaust.

These poor sheep still fight "holy wars" for their holy father in Rome.

I wonder if there is anyone man enough to crucify him on his "own" cross?

You don't get this in Protestant belief and you don't get it with science either.

So why does anyone take any notice of Rome at all?

Has this Pope become God all of a sudden?

Utter nonsense.

If God were to come on Earth, like His Son did, would you ask either of them to make a religious observance?

So why do you pay lipservice to this totally disorganised parasite who prostitutes women to holiness and then periodically slaughters people, getting others to do the dirty work for him?

Take NO notice at all. Honor thy OWN mother and thy OWN Father if you are able to.

All that these churchmen have ever organised is a global disaster of massive overpopulation and conspicuous greed.

A properly organised global Military would have looked after EVERYONE ... MUCH ... better than this reprobate EVER could.

The Military has its Ministers of Religion too. But it would be a better thing if they used scientific instruction rather than sexual "tefhniques" involving sexual suggestion and the instilling of guilt as an "original sin".

They ARE fooling the LOT of you.

See "LOT's wife" in the Gomorrah of the Dead Sea in the "hol(e)y" land.

And where does the sick "symbolism" of pope Joan fit into all of this? If there ever was a pope Joan.

Keep on praying to these "holy" men and they will ruin the LOT of you and ruin the entire planet into the bargain.

They have PROVED themselves INCAPABLE of organising anything.

I advise you to remain Freethinking at all times and to COMPLETELY REJECT the church and ALL of its priests, as I do.

Be your own god and goddess and pray to nobody. Just ask God for help if you REALLY believe in Him.

Praying won't help you.

Hugo Holbling

I think you would do well to consider how some people may interpret this question.

Is there any reason to talk about a nation in this way?

Okay, but i doubt it will be easy as long as Poles and holes exist.

HelenM

Light, I know you like to focus on words that sound similar, but etymologically, "holy" and "hole" are from different origins. It seems to be entirely coincidental that "holy" and "hole" are similarly spelled and your putting them together in much of what you write does not alter that.

On the other hand, "holy" and "whole" derive from the same Old English word; it would make much more sense to compare those.

Helen

HelenM

I wouldn't be surprised if he has considered it already

Helen

Light

It just occurs to me to enquire if this is a Pole who lives IN a hole or does he live OFF his hole. Is it your hole, someone elses's hole or are we all stuck in the same hole?

Regardless of the spelling between hole and holy (just replace the e of hole with a y) the Lake of Galilee represents the anus and the Sea of Galilee represents the other "hole".

What a charming profession these holy men have.

But should YOU worship them or worship GOD?

Does mankind need these hol(e)y men to ruin the planet they live on by siding with terrorists, fighting "holy" wars in Israel and encouraging people to have FAR many more children than the planet is capable of supporting, adding 4.0 billion people since WWII with absolutely NO control of the population or of the population explosion until it ultimately reaches apocalypse SIMPLY to be in accordance with a 2004 year superstition about the possibility of another Mars collision and with NO thought as to the welfare of the planet OR of its people.

4 billion MORE people who were already fighting over resources in WWII. Doers he think that 6 Billion people are LESS likely to go to war or MORE likely to go to war, or has he not got the slightest clue?

What sort of fatalistic fools are these? Holy men.

I prefer Thermodynamics. Thermo of Thermos, the Supreme Thermo and Thermo, Thermo, Thermo.

Interesting to hear about the flesh-eating bloodsuckers though.

And you would pray to these fools?

More fool you.

Then everyone will become "the same", as foolish as each other.

Sharing a common denominator of superstitious and fatalistic stupidity and hole worship.

I must try to stop laughing!

Looks like the Joker is laughing too.

"Expert, textpert, choking smokers, don't you know the Joker laughs at you?"

Light

I prefer the idea of warmth and loving. Rather than these streaks of doom and gloom misery, sitting in their cells consumed by jealousy and mysogeny.

ex-xian

...off to ~~E~~...

MrFrosty

~~E~~ is too good a place for this thread.

Duvenoy

What does holiness mean to me?

It means that I need to buy some new socks.

doov

Light

Darn! You are right again.

There are these holy men who think that it is their private domain.