Goliath

Who is Matthew Arnold?

Sincerely,

Goliath

Goliath

I refuse to do so because I see no reason to do so.

Of course I'm in a position to judge it! Let me share a little secret with you: Everyone judges prettymuch everything.

Sincerely,

Goliath

Goliath

How bizarre...what led you to believe that the bible was a science text or newspaper?

Oh, and do you have anything resembling evidence to back up your assertion that most atheists see the bible as such?

Sincerely,

Goliath

Evoken

I used to read it as a newspaper because I only focused on what I found that supported my goal which was to find contradictions, errors and flaws in it. So I was jumping all around it looking for those and once I found them I would go and show them off at Christians and then attemped to find flaws in their explanations as well or blame God because he didn't write it right.

Then I decided to actually READ The Bible and I started to base my conclusions on facts and reason instead of arrogance which was what I was doing as an atheist.

Take a look at the three paid banners at the top of the page. It is not Atheism but Anti-Theism. With a predisposed negative view towards something you will always reject it and try to find errors and flaws in it even if there aren't any.

It is not a neutral view but a biased view..like everything else. Christians are ignorant and brainwashed people(the damned), atheists are smart freethinking people(the saved).

Nectaris

How would the manner in which you read something change its actual content? I think you assume the position of the reader, i.e. as that of one trying to disprove something. You have no way to gauge my motives when I read a document. Maybe you read something in a certain way, but that doesn't mean that everyone has done it that way.

Three questions: Why do you capitalize atheism and anti-theism? That out of the way, how do you feel the ads on a web page make a statement about people who post on the message boards or even the webpage itself? And what particularly do you find anti-theistic about the particular ads?

Isn't it a tad bit presumptuous to state what another person's position is, without asking first?

Dave

pope fiction

We don't have a messiah, that's the point.

No, I don't think the bible is a science book, obviously. I don't consider a book with someone walking on water a science book. However, I do think the bible is crap as a source for historically accurate information.

Saying that a christian gains more by reading an atheism book than an atheist reading the bible is obviously not biased. Almost every atheist has come from a religious background and has read most or all of the bible (like myself). I don't know one christian that would read a book on atheism, yet they all try to get atheists to read the bible as if it would benefit them. I don't think it is I who is biased here.

PF

pope fiction

What's your point?

PF

pope fiction

Oh, I guess you're the expert, then.

PF

Goliath

Guess what? I actually READ the bible as well, and that was one of the many things that turned me towards atheism.

Arrogance? Stop projecting your weaknesses onto me, please.

I disagree, but even if you were right, so what? I have an intense, burning hatred of xianity.

Huh? Saved from what?

Sincerely,

Goliath

spin

1. That I don't come to the same evaluation as the statement you first give. ("I don't have such scales", ie I don't weigh it the same way as you do.)

2. That it is irrelevant whether you consider one more "worthwhile" than another, when the topic is not that, but the lovely proposition that "the bible is crap".


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