hope's daughter

King Rat,

Is there any point to your post other than to mock and ridicule my character? God Himself with stood the likes of you on the cross. I think I can go a couple rounds of insults. BTW I always find it interesting that atheist do not discriminate between men and women who are Christians. Both get the same kind of treatment.

I am sorry King Rat that your life is going so great. O I can tell you are really pleased with it by your tone. Do you have a hard time being nice or something? Scared if that rough exterior falls away it might reveal a mouse not a rat?

BTW I do not believe in myths. I tried your way once and I was disappointed.

King Rat

I thought I listed all of the relevant points already...

Would I be Longinus, the wailing mourners, the onlooking jews, one of the thieves, Satan, or Jesus? I think you were trying to insult me, but something didn't translate.

I find it ironic that you take umbrage at my insults. When we take umbrage at your insults to us, you feign innocence. I will not be so disingenuous. I don't understand why I should treat a female differently than a male under these circumstances. Is intelligence different between male and female christians?

Don't be sorry, my life is pretty fuckin' awesome right now. I even have the luxury of re-choosing my career path with no loss of financial stability. I'm the luckiest little atheist boy in the whole world. Very perceptive of you BTW.

I have no difficulty being nice to those who don't insult me. I realize that you have no clue as to how you have casually insulted an entire group of people, but ignorance is no excuse in my book.

Sure you do, but it's o.k. I can totally understand how a white-haired-benevolent-grandpa-in-the-sky is comforting. I also understand how it gives you a warm fuzzy thinking about how King Rat the mean (but inexplicably happy) atheist is going to roast in hell for all eternity. It appeals to xian justice, and assuages xian persecution complexes. I can easily see why you weren't able to be happy 'trying it my way.' It can be quite frightening to stare into the abyss and have the abyss stare back at you.

Boo.

King Rat

BTW, your spelling seems to have improved some, good for you!

BTWX2 I sometimes wonder why evengelical xians are so concerned about my relationship to god. It's like the annoying person you meet that went to your same high school.

"Do you know god?"

"No, never met him."

"Are you sure?"

"Yeah, I don't know him."

"Really, he was very popular."

"Nope, never met him."

"C'mon, he was one of the most popular gods around."

"Look, I said I don't know this god person."

"I don't believe you, everybody knows god."

"Sorry, I guess I ran in different circles."

"Okay, whatever, did you know jesus?"

hope's daughter

Well I missed them. Why don't you reinterate. On second thought don't bother. I know why people such as yourself are mean. You read things into a person's words that is not there. I have nothing but the best for you in my words.



No I have been around quite a few who are angry at the mere mention of God and if one admits to having a relationship with this mysterious God a person falls under contempt on these boards. This is not just a pronouncement on yourself specifically but many I have run across.



Tell me what you find insulting and I will apologize. Will this be extyented to myself? I doubt it. But no matter if I have ofeended it is not my intent. The female of the species is the weaker sex and yes before feminism reared it's ugly head, women were treated with more respect. I certainly do not want to be treated as a male.

I am glad to hear this King Rat and so is the entire internet. I can tell you are quite modest too.

Really I find this hard to believe as you flung the first insults. I suggest you go over your words and see just where you took a turn for the worst.

Are you kidding? Do you honestly think I witness like that. King Rat treat me as a human being and I will treat you in kind. If I witness to you I do not have to remind you of hell, only point you to heaven and you will be filled with so much longing that you will want to be there. Sounding like Hallmark? Well it might be a lucrative option for me.

Boo who? OH and BTW I am not an embacil but believe what you wish

ju'iblex

ack! you have to be kidding me! the first feminist movement was in the 1800's. Let's see how women were treated.

No vote.
Laws in some states prohibited women from lifting weights above a certain amount varying from as little as 15 pounds (7 kilograms) again barring women from many jobs.
By the early 19th century, however, acceptable occupations for working women were limited to factory labor or domestic work. Women were excluded from the professions, except for writing and teaching.
With the Union victory in the Civil War, women abolitionists hoped their hard work would result in suffrage for women as well as for blacks. But the 14th and 15th Amendments to the Constitution, adopted in 1868 and 1870 respectively, granted citizenship and suffrage to blacks but not to women.
Husbands had legal power over and responsibility for their wives to the extent that they could imprison or beat them with impunity
Divorce and child custody laws favored men, giving no rights to women
Women had to pay property taxes although they had no representation in the levying of these taxes
Most occupations were closed to women and when women did work they were paid only a fraction of what men earned
Women were not allowed to enter professions such as medicine or law
Women had no means to gain an education since no college or university would accept women students
With only a few exceptions, women were not allowed to participate in the affairs of the church


please explain how women were treated "better" na dhow they are now "treated like men".

hope's daughter

Ju' iblex,

Woman's sufferage was the 1800's and feminism started in the 1960's to be precise.

ju'iblex

err.... what do you think women's suffrage is, it's feminism.

eifion

Isn't that just a paraphrase of my #2?

King Rat

Short, short memory you've got there.

You still infer only what you wish.
You still cannot spell.
You are barely a challenge, let alone an enemy.
You still have no data to support your position.
You still cannot prove one of the basic tenets of your belief.
You have balked at two opportunities to save souls.
Your fifth proposition is still nonsensical.
You cannot prove that music is a gift from god.
You cannot prove that love is a gift from god.
You still have only a passing acquaintance with logic.
You cannot resist witnessing.


I have zero anger towards people who believe in god. What I do have is pity, bafflement, and sometimes suspicion. I only get angry when they start insulting me. What if I in the course of meeting an xian for the first time start saying things like:

"May Satan bless you."

or:

"Nietzsche killed your god, not the Romans."

or:

"I know you secretly love Satan."

I think I'd expect that xian to get a little insulted, dont you?

See above. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I require no apology from you. How can you possibly even apologize sincerely if you aren't even compassionate enough to understand the position of those you insulted?

You know, it's been amusing to play with you up until now. You have just said the most offensive thing I can imagine. Alas, HD, our time together is nearing it's conclusion.

Odd, you are the one who brought it up, not I. Trying to paint me as immodest after you bring up the topic is quite...Typical. How Christian of you, your god would be proud.

The biggest difference between you and I is; I know exactly what I said, why I said it, and when I said it. I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt. I thought you could keep track of your own spewings, apparently I was wrong.

*sigh* Have you completely erased the posts you have made to this board from your memory? Do you have selective amnesia? Are you really several different people posting under one moniker and you can't keep track of who said what? Or are you several different people posting from the same head and can't keep track of who said what?

Your witnesses to me are wasted breath, time, energy, and brain power. Your heaven and your hell are monopoly money for a non-existant deity born from a collection of sheep herder's fireside tales. The only longing I feel is for the abdication of reason from yet another human willing to betray their intellect.

You should look into it.

Must I explain everything to you? Rhetorical, don't bother answering.

HD, it's spelled imbecile. I do not believe you are an imbecile at all.

hope's daughter

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Welcome to the machine�

Well then why did you write it and while you are at it who are you?