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09-04-2007, 12:09 PM | #181 |
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Completely classical, as there was no interruption in culture and government in the East. I also agree that the romans could have built it, if it were their style.
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By the way, the romans knew about the pointed arch, and used it in their sewers. They didn't use it above ground for aesthetic reasons.
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Saw recently a discussion of the various Roman forts around Britain allegedly built to defend against Saxons. Wrong. They were port stores! Once the Romans went, trade collapsed - result Dark ages. |
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How did the Dark Ages started? It started and increased as Christianity increased. (The faith was made mandatory in the 4th century throughout the Roman empire by insame eastern emperors.) It started to lift in Italy with the creation of Republics and Communes from the 9th century on, and the creation of universities and craft centers. Most of Europe remained under the shadow until the 16th century or later.} Christianity was the choosing of the way to heaven; hence life was devoted to the cares of heaven and the renunciation of the cares of the world. Thus the crafts and the arts were repudiated, ancient books of wisdom were burned, architectural masterpieces were torn down, scholastic learning was terminated, and all technological structures aged and died. Anything pagan/secular was trampled upon. So, the Europeans destroyed their own cultural traditions and life. As they became barbaric, there were also conquered by barbarians: they lost their estates, they lost all the civil rights that were part of the Roman republic, they lost their freedom. They became wretched subjects of lords, servants of masters. They knelt before their divine and human lords. This was their abject state, the darkness of their minds and spirit. The only thing they had left was the hope of an eternal life in the company of rabbi Jesus, King of the kingdom of God, after the end of the world, when they would be mercilessly judged. That was the wonderful Dark Ages! And today? As Reverent Falwell said, We must bring America to its knees. He represents those who struggle for the return of the Dark Ages. Politically, our lives are already mortgaged to international banks, and civil liberty is being reduced by the day, as the lords increase their political power by the day. We already are in a new course of social disaster. The USA is the epicenter of the second Dark Ages. |
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And check references in that article. I was in Trier in August and the Basilica mentioned is very impressive. Of course Archimedes helped with the required geometry! (Not directly!) The difference between Rome and the Dark Ages is about organisation, division of labour and cross fertilisation of ideas. Marc Anthony and Augustus fought with ten rowed ships for example. I don't remember the Vikings doing that! http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.c...=143985&page=1 Quote:
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The egyptians knew about round arches, but only used them in utilitarian structures. |
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That thread on selective rationalism:
Brains shut down reasoning skills for partisans, Democrat or Republican (merged) mentioning these articles: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11009379/ http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/200601...actsstudyfinds The reasoning parts of the campaign workers' brains were active when they assessed contradictions in other candidates' policies, but not for those of their candidates. So I think that this is a lesson to us all -- to be willing to assess our beliefs with the sort of critical sense that we use on others' beliefs. But I doubt if either Augustine or Severus Sebokht would have gotten away with (say) analyzing the Trinity as critically as they had analyzed astrology -- they would likely have gotten in deep trouble if they had. In fact, one has to marvel at the medieval Church's having just enough open-mindedness to allow the study of pagan philosophy when they were itchy sensitive about tiny details of such things as the Trinity. |
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