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Old 06-18-2004, 09:49 PM   #11
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It is, but it very much requires a piece of theology which I find deeply questionable...

All that stuff is built up from extrabiblical theology humans have invented in the intervening millennia.
I agree with all you said. Let the record show I'm not speaking about the rare Christian who looks deeper into his own beliefs and takes the trouble to draw his own conclusions, such as you. I'm speaking of the average animal here.

I'm pretty sure you meant "homosexual" denotes sexuality only in the eyes of those you're trying to explain in lieu of, but wouldn't that mean "heterosexual" only denotes a person who's defined by his sexuality, as well?

Or is there a double standard?

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Or is there a double standard?
I'm leaning towards the double standard thing.

Its amusing to see people railing against the so-called "homosexual influences" corrupting the country and promoting this mysterious "homosexual-lifestyle". And then I can just turn on TV and within a few seconds find one of those horribly reality TV shows. One with a bunch of scantily clad women with large breasts trying to get in bed with some guy named Joe.


Those evil heterosexuals are corrupting the children and trying to promote the heterosexual lifestyle!!!!!111one
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So, the "homosexual lifestyle" is just that gay people happen to like people of the same gender, and the "heterosexual lifestyle" is where heterosexual people like people of the opposite gender?
No; the theory is that the "homosexual lifestyle" revolves entirely around sex.

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Is it just me, or is that term just plain dumb?
It's substantially dumber than you apparently thought it was.
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I agree with all you said. Let the record show I'm not speaking about the rare Christian who looks deeper into his own beliefs and takes the trouble to draw his own conclusions, such as you. I'm speaking of the average animal here.

I'm pretty sure you meant "homosexual" denotes sexuality only in the eyes of those you're trying to explain in lieu of, but wouldn't that mean "heterosexual" only denotes a person who's defined by his sexuality, as well?
It's not that it denotes sexuality only; it's that, because the group is defined that way, they think that each member of the group is entirely focused on sexuality.

And yes, it should apply to heterosexuality too - but of course, they know that their lives are more complicated than that.


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At least triple.
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Old 06-18-2004, 10:24 PM   #15
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Its amusing to see people railing against the so-called "homosexual influences" corrupting the country and promoting this mysterious "homosexual-lifestyle". And then I can just turn on TV and within a few seconds find one of those horribly reality TV shows. One with a bunch of scantily clad women with large breasts trying to get in bed with some guy named Joe.


Those evil heterosexuals are corrupting the children and trying to promote the heterosexual lifestyle!!!!!111one
Heh.

Actually, the one that most offends me is all the promotion of the "soulmate" concept. "If your relationship is requiring work, you should ditch it and go find someone better." EVIL!
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I find it odd that a claimed psychotherapist is so adamently opposed to a large group of people due to their religion.

Even more odd is the lumping of people into catagories. What support is there for the statement that "those who scream the loudest about homosexuality are often the ones who have some kind of kinky sex". Where does this come from? What evidence is there of this?

Now, the most intriguing is for someone to say that the anus is a biologically sanctified orifice for intercourse just like the vagina is. The anus is designed for exit only activities for one. It is not self lubricating and the contents of it are not the most sanitary.

I think you all should rethink this one before jumping on Newt's bizarre bandwagon. I do not feel homosexuality is biologically normal and I could come up with a better defense for it than Newt has.

Again, this subject has really only one purpose. It is obviously not to promote homosexuality.
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I do not feel homosexuality is biologically normal...
The gay penguins would like to disagree with you...
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I would guess that, given that most people do something kinky, most people who object to gay sex probably do something kinky.
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Hear Hear Hyndis
Those penguins could help a lot of people.
I think sexuality is far too diverse a behaviour to be constrained to "Reproductive puposes only". If you take this view and are criminalise or demonise people who are born different to you and have no choice in the matter you end up living an angry angry life, and missing out on getting to know some of the nicest people you are likely to meet. I speak from experience, having only shed quite severe homophobia shorty after leaving high school.
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Would someone please tell me what the heck this mysterious "homosexual life style" thing is?
Sorry about that. I should have phrased that in another way. All that I meant was that I don't think that it is for me.

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Please expand on what "the homosexual lifestyle" is, fallingblood. What is it about it that you don't agree with, exactly--particularly when you note how nice your homosexual friends are and that you find nothing wrong with them at all. I'm confused.
All that I don't agree with is liking the same sex. But if it works for them, then that's cool. I don't find anything wrong with it, I just would rather like girls.
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