Mageth

Again, all of them can go backwards on the graph you presented, or on another graph. All Christian sects can be traced back to the first century.

So, they claim that what you call "Orthodoxy" has not remained uncorrupted. They say your claims are false.

We're left with a "he said-she said" dilemma.

Christianity was quite divided even in the First Century, and even more so in the next couple of centuries. "Orthodoxy" began when one particular sect won out over the others.

Your view of the history of the Christian faith is distorted by the "orthodox" dogma of your particular sect, which emerged from the victors like most of the rest of the sects we see today.

judge

Yes..where does the Assyrian Church of the East fit in?

motorhead

Okay, so the Bible is not meant to be a science book. But why couldn't the all powerful God at least get the science claims within it right? Again, it's a very easy thing to get done, especially for an all powerful God.

Furthermore, I would say the Bible is not at all clear on matters of theology and the essentials of salvation. Christians have debated for 2000 years the correct understanding of Christian theology and the essentials of salvation, and their main source for this is the Bible. Don't resort to the "yeah but my church has it right." Discuss why there is such confusion amongst various Christian sects on Christian theology and interpreting the Bible.
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Orthodox_Freethinker

No, that is not true. Protestantism began about 1500 years after the first century while Orthodoxy began within the first century. There is an obvious difference.

Peace.

Orthodox_Freethinker

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Because, again, the Bible is not a science textbook. If young earth creationism is all that Moses had available to him, then so be it.
The Bible is right, however, that the universe is not eternal.

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The Orthodox Church has existed from before the New Testament was even written. The Orthodox Church, with the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, wrote the New Testament. Therefore, if any Church understands salvation, it is ours.

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Because they are all competing sects even though there is only supposed to be one Church.

Peace.

Ubercat

Huh???? Joe Blow just invented a religion and called it christianity? How are YOU qualified to tell us what's valid and what isn't? Do you know anything about the history of the christian church? The Roman Catholic church WAS the only christian church for centuries. Would you claim they were invalid? If so, then there WAS no christian church for quite some time. (god just took a long nap?) The eastern orthodox churches split from them, and much later, so did the protestants. ALL christian churches came from the same early church. They just evolved in different directions.

-Ubercat

Ubercat

Wow, so they've been wearing those ridiculous huge robes, and carrying those gaudy, jewel encrusted crucifixes and shephards whatshamashizits since 52 AD? And all those silly rituals were invented then and haven't changed since? I AM impressed. :notworthy

-Ubercat

Orthodox_Freethinker

No, of course not. As the chart demonstrates, the Roman and Eastern Church were one, undivided Church for the first thousand years of the faith. Sadly, we have been separated from that time, showing the mistakes of fallible humans. I have nothing against Catholicism and I attend Catholic mass rather often. My mother happens to be Catholic.
It is Protestantism, and particularly fundamentalism, that I am not entirely fond of.

Peace.

Orthodox_Freethinker

Those are external things, not Orthodox theological teaching.

Peace.

NOGO

Orthodox_Freethinker

How can you call yourself a FREETHINKER?

Kindly lookup the meaning of the word.