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Her pinkness saves · 09-07-2006, 06:22 PM

i don't even want to know how i managed to get into this topic but bah.

all those "discussion not 20 questions" folks can add me to there hate list.

would the hypothetical Jesus have been crucified by the Romans, in the nude? And is there any evidence for this. oh yea; and is there any support for that loin cloth being a latter add in.

Basically; since cruficition seems to me to be a "let's make an example of this guy and humiliate him" they would have stripped jesus entirely before finishing him off, else why bother with teh eleborate death; might as well shank him then and there and be done with it.

I searched found nothing. i googled; and ended up crying myself to sleep. so maybe you guys can help me.

GenesisNemesis · 09-07-2006, 06:27 PM

Seriously? You cried?

I dunno anything about this except there's a confusion with the robe color the Romans dressed Jesus in.

SCARLET OR PURPLE!??!?!

Her pinkness saves · 09-07-2006, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GenesisNemesis

Seriously? You cried?

lets just say that to some sculpturers minds; jesus wouldn't have needed an expensive car.

JGL53 · 09-07-2006, 09:25 PM

If it happened at all, it happened 2000 years ago. History gets distorted. E.g., half the stuff that Buddha allegedly said probably never happened.

Re the crucifixion, for all we know now it was just a weekend S/M party that went awry when jesus forgot the safe word.

You can't take this stuff seriously, deary, or your head may explode.

SaguaroJen · 09-07-2006, 10:37 PM

<Jen looks to extensive book collection for Roman Crucifixion (specifically Crucifiction) Handbook. Must have loaned it out. Sorry.>

Interesting speculation... about Roman crucifixions in general. I note, though, that you're going for logic on the part of the Romans during that time period. While they may well have leaned that way, there's a fair bit of history suggesting they placed some value on sheer entertainment. In my opinion, while humiliation would likely have been a goal, they might not have crossed their own line of not offending the sensibilities of society by disregarding proper decorum in public.

Jen

Toto · 09-08-2006, 12:09 AM

When a man was crucified, he was usually stripped naked. See

Crucifixion.

The pictures of Jesus on the cross date from centuries after the alleged event. The loincloth comes from the artists' imaginations.

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Her pinkness saves Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: canada Posts: 852	can't believe in asking this... i don't even want to know how i managed to get into this topic but bah. all those "discussion not 20 questions" folks can add me to there hate list. would the hypothetical Jesus have been crucified by the Romans, in the nude? And is there any evidence for this. oh yea; and is there any support for that loin cloth being a latter add in. Basically; since cruficition seems to me to be a "let's make an example of this guy and humiliate him" they would have stripped jesus entirely before finishing him off, else why bother with teh eleborate death; might as well shank him then and there and be done with it. I searched found nothing. i googled; and ended up crying myself to sleep. so maybe you guys can help me.

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09-07-2006, 06:27 PM	#2
GenesisNemesis Contributor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A pale blue oblate spheroid. Posts: 20,351	Seriously? You cried? I dunno anything about this except there's a confusion with the robe color the Romans dressed Jesus in. SCARLET OR PURPLE!??!?!

09-07-2006, 09:25 PM	#4
JGL53 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outer Mongolia Posts: 4,091	If it happened at all, it happened 2000 years ago. History gets distorted. E.g., half the stuff that Buddha allegedly said probably never happened. Re the crucifixion, for all we know now it was just a weekend S/M party that went awry when jesus forgot the safe word. You can't take this stuff seriously, deary, or your head may explode.

09-07-2006, 10:37 PM	#5
SaguaroJen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Arizona Posts: 646	<Jen looks to extensive book collection for Roman Crucifixion (specifically Crucifiction) Handbook. Must have loaned it out. Sorry.> Interesting speculation... about Roman crucifixions in general. I note, though, that you're going for logic on the part of the Romans during that time period. While they may well have leaned that way, there's a fair bit of history suggesting they placed some value on sheer entertainment. In my opinion, while humiliation would likely have been a goal, they might not have crossed their own line of not offending the sensibilities of society by disregarding proper decorum in public. Jen

09-08-2006, 12:09 AM	#6
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	When a man was crucified, he was usually stripped naked. See Crucifixion. The pictures of Jesus on the cross date from centuries after the alleged event. The loincloth comes from the artists' imaginations.

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