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Old 04-29-2007, 12:25 PM   #251
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Feel free to show us your evidence...
I feel free not to show it. And it is not MY evidence, but the one unearthed by a famous archaeologist. Everyone interested by this subject knows him and his work. If someone is not able to find it, it means that this someone is not really interested or has not the basic knowledge to understand it. Twenty years of field work and more than 1200 sites studied. Go figure.
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Neither you nor the self-proclaimed Messiah, Larsguy47 (nor anyone else), has come up with any yet.

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Of course it is easier to repeat without end a stupid anthem than to do some homework. You are disqualifying yourself.

Evidence there is. :angel:
What evidence are you referring to which can meaningfully be connected to the period in question?


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I feel free not to show it. And it is not MY evidence, but the one unearthed by a famous archaeologist. Everyone interested by this subject knows him and his work. If someone is not able to find it, it means that this someone is not really interested or has not the basic knowledge to understand it. Twenty years of field work and more than 1200 sites studied. Go figure.
Afraid to tell us, eh?
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I feel free not to show it. And it is not MY evidence, but the one unearthed by a famous archaeologist. Everyone interested by this subject knows him and his work. If someone is not able to find it, it means that this someone is not really interested or has not the basic knowledge to understand it. Twenty years of field work and more than 1200 sites studied. Go figure.
Aren't you a little old to be playing "guess my secret" games?
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Old 04-29-2007, 02:12 PM   #256
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Lars -

It's simple. There's no evidence because ... it didn't happen!

A million people do not 'wander' for nearly half a century without leaving a trace. Someone would have dropped something. Left behind a pile of ... leavings. And, with a million or so folks, that would add up, even if they -did- travel about rather than staying in one place.

As to a city being 'blown away'? Think about this, around 2100BC, the entirity of mesopotamia is populated by about a million people. Ur, Sumer, Byblos, Babylon and tons of other cities, towns, villages. That's a much larger area than we're talking for your Exodus.

And as to the blowing sand, recognize that it buries things and also discloses them. Dunes shift. Big storms move the sands all over.

Someone, somewhere would have found remnants.

Sorry.
No evidence because it did not happen?

Imagine yourself and others dwelling in a desert between Egypt ans Canaan, with all the plunderings done in Egypt, and with the acquisition of weapons in preparation of the next-generation exploits: there must be some TRACES of some kind of other. But if you have not dug up the whole desert east of Suez, how can you say THERE IS NO EVIDENCE?

Perhaps you are thinking of the Red Sea opening up miraculously for the passage of the Israelites and, therefore, you have been digging east of the Red Sea. If you buy the miraculous story told for the indoctrination of little children, you get stranded in the desert and find NOTHING. But do you know that there used to be the isthmus of Suez that the Egyptians had used for crossing over into Canaan?
(The Canal of Suez was cut during the 19th centurty A.D., not B.C.)

When God gave Abraham the land between the Euphrates [one of the rivers that define the land of Eden] and the Nile -- rivers obviously named by God Himself, after he created the Middle Eastern World -- there is no report of any Israelitic problem of getting into Egypt. The territory was possession-marked by some tombs of heroes that died during the advance into Egypt. Look for tombs of those who were expelled from Egypt, who lingered on the roadways east of the isthmus. No tombs? Perhaps some Egyptian artifacts, but don't look for Israelitic-branded artifacts [coins, weapons, pots and pans]. The Isrealites were never artificers: they bought or stole their artifacts, at least before conquering the cities of farmers and artificers. (Of course, there is no way of telling whether probably already found artifacts were ever in possession of the desert Israelites.)
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But if you have not dug up the whole desert east of Suez, how can you say THERE IS NO EVIDENCE?
*sigh*
Another person who hasn't read the thread - or the texts.

It isn't necessary to dig up the whole desert. Why not? Because the OT specifically tells us the route the Hebrews allegedly took. Moreover, of the 40 years the Hebrews spent wandering in the desert, 38 of those 40 years were spent camped at Kadesh-Barnea. But that area has been extensively dug up and nothing has ever been found.

Deleting and ignoring the rest of your rambling nonsense.
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*sigh*
Another person who hasn't read the thread - or the texts.

It isn't necessary to dig up the whole desert. Why not? Because the OT specifically tells us the route the Hebrews allegedly took. Moreover, of the 40 years the Hebrews spent wandering in the desert, 38 of those 40 years were spent camped at Kadesh-Barnea. But that area has been extensively dug up and nothing has ever been found.

Deleting and ignoring the rest of your rambling nonsense.
Before digging along the named route, did anybody dig for evidence under the parted Red Sea? There surely must some evidence left by the dead Egyptians who chased the Israelites!

Or do you think that the Israelites took a leisurely walk on the isthmus of Suez, the way they went into Egypt???

Keep on proving non-occurrence from your lack of evidence..... As I said, the evidence may have been found already, but as it is not identifiably Israelitic, you are left with the opportunity of searching under the Red Sea. (At best it has been proven that the Bible descriptions were incorrect... or that names of locations have changed.)

Good luck!
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Before digging along the named route, did anybody dig for evidence under the parted Red Sea?
Reed sea [yam suph].

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Old 04-29-2007, 10:25 PM   #260
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I feel free not to show it.
Because it doesn't exist.

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And it is not MY evidence, but the one unearthed by a famous archaeologist. Everyone interested by this subject knows him and his work. If someone is not able to find it, it means that this someone is not really interested or has not the basic knowledge to understand it. Twenty years of field work and more than 1200 sites studied. Go figure.
Sounds like the same guy who wrote the book that Larsguy says he has that "proves" that Aristotle and Socrates had a love affair.

Funny that your "famous" archaelologist doesn't seem to be mentioned in any of the sources on the Internet. (Please tell us it's not Ron Wyatt.)

So, neither you nor the self-proclaimed Messiah, Larsguy47 (nor anyone else), has come up with any evidence yet.

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Pointing only to your ignorance of the subject and your laziness.
Since it's you who are claiming unknown sources, I think you need to can the insults, dude.

In any event, for you and Larsguy47:
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[1) 2 1/2 million people allegedly wandering around in the desert.

2) No evidence whatseover of their presence.

3) Therefore, they weren't there.
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