Amedeo

Correction of this passage in # 7:

As I am not a professional numerologist, I was reading how long certain people lived, when I should have looked at their age when the begat others. So, according to the Bible [Gen.:11]. there are 8 generations between Shem and Abram (who became Abraham). Considering their reproductive ages, there are 310 years between Shem and Abram.

Now, nobody knows when the Catalogue of the Nation was actually written (composed), but from internal evidence [what it refers to] and real history, one may infer that it could not have been written before (approximately) 1700 B.C. Between Arphaxad and Terah, the father of Abram, there are 310 years. So, roughly speaking, Abram was born no earlier than 1400 B.C.

According to the internet Bible World History, the flood occurred around 2570 B.C.; the 100 year old Shem started begot Arphaxad around 2450 [which is about 120, rather than 102, years after the flood] and Abram was born, some 250 [not 310] years later, in 2200 B.C. This numerology is based, weather accurately or not, on textual evidence alone. On the contrary, by referring to real historical facts, Abraham could not have been born before 1400 B.C. The 800 year error by Bible numerologists is due to their ignoring real history. (And the error is only 800 years, if we disreagard the fact that Abraham could not be from the Chaldeans of the 1st millennium B.C.) THERE IS NO CONCORDANCE BETWEEN BIBLE CHRONOLOGY AND HISTORICAL CHRONOLOGY. And there is no concordance between Bible culture chronicles and historical archeology/antropology.

The Bible is mainly a book of memories -- muddled, frequently fabricated, and anachronistic memories.
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Addition to this passage in # 4:

The Biblical nation, Elam, is identifiable with the historical Elam, namely the nation in central Persia. Therefore, Persia is definitely included in the God-created World and we may extend the eastern geography of this World as far as the Indus River.

Sven

Hint: This is a discussion board. If you want to write long texts in which obviously no one is interested, create a web page.

Amedeo

Since when have you become the spokesmen for all members of this Board? Since when have not some members written long posts, or a sequence of posts with intermediary discussions? Are you telling me that I am breaking any of the rules of memberiship? Who gave you authority to be the accuser and judge of what you believe to be malpractice?

RED DAVE

Aww. Are your feelings hurt?

By the way, on your personal profile, you list the following:
(emphasis added)

I wonder what, in the context of this thread, the emphasized items mean.

RED DAVE

Sven

I'm not telling you anything about rules/malpractise. And I'm not a spokesmen. My post was just a hint for you to think about the thread.

Amedeo

I know I am an uncomfortable presence in your midst, and you will find every opportunity to provoke, instigate, and to have me curse you out.

I am not going to walk away. That's my last word to all antagonizers.

This Board is made for discussions, and you are being off the mark! Get back on track, if you can. Read again and slowly and perhaps you will find something to learn. As of now, you are wasting your time.

VERITAS FILIA TEMPORIS,
Philotheos Amygdale, magister

Toto

I am a bit confused by your approach. You seem to acknowledge that the Bible is not a reliable historical document, but then you try to extract a lot of history from it, and seem to accept most of it as reflecting a historical development.

Do you have a methodology? Have you learned your methodology from someone or developed it yourself? What are you trying to prove?

Amedeo

I have never thought of a specific methodogy. I have happened to find certain things in common in many books, such as the Iliad, the Odyssey, the Bible, the New Testament, the historical novels of Scott and others, and some other books. They all make references to historical events and world events, and, at the same time they they quote speeches that were never recorded [like the Oswald answers during the interrogations about the Kennedy assassination], speeches that had no witnesses other than the reporters, speeches that are demonstrably contrived; and provide ad hoc explanations as to the causes and the purposes of those historical events.

These are what I call mythological books, which means that they are neither true accounts [histories], nor fantasies. So, as you know, a famous archeologist who studied the Iliad discovered Ilium or the overlayed Troys. Like others, I myself have worked on the Odyssey in the attempt to plot, in modern geography, the journey of Odysseus. I would like to see the verification or refutation [by actual excavation in France] on my linguistic inference work -- based on historical facts and on myths [presented on 4 video-tapes] -- on the location of the Ark. By analysing the canonical Gospels, I found two contradictory biographies of Jesus that are intertwined in those scriptures; so, I unveiled some truth out of those "mythological" books. As for the Bible, which has the character of a mythological book, there are plenty of historical references and realistic facts which serve my purpose of making an ETHNOLOGICAL study of the people described therein.
From the nature of the first Biblical family, I can practically pin-point the time -- the real time of human history/archeology -- when the Adam family was narrated and eventually written down. In my latest posts, I have done some linguistic archeology (or etymological analyses), as I did also previously, so as to get at the pre-history of some of the peoples or nations which, according to the Biblical genealogism, were simply founded by Noah's sons. When the genealogist spoke of those real Peoples he knew or had heard of, he had no conception that they had a long history. Just as they believed that the sun and the moon they looked at were some of originals that God created, the peoples in question were the originals that three families founded. This is maximal mythology. But what I am interested in is to dig in words and in content details, which actually reveal a lot about the pre-history of the Levantine so-called Semitic people, and the history of the Biblical gods. As I said, I have been doing ethnology. The Bible is an immense field for ethnological research.

Amedeo

Continuations about Peoples (in the Table/Catalogue of Nations) --
Shem to Eber:
http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.p...02#post4428302

RED DAVE

It's already been refuted by the fact that you don't have a single fact going for you: just a warmed-over version of your favorite documdrama: The DaVinci Code.

RED DAVE