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Johnny Skeptic · 05-23-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Joey

Evolution has not been proven.

That is true, but partial evolution has been reasonably proven. Among Christians, perhaps the leading proponent of partial evolution is Michael Behe, Ph.D., biochemistry. He is a Roman Catholic.

It is no wonder that among the 7% of the members of the National Academy of Sciences who are Christians, the least represented group are biologists. Intelligent, honest biologists have no choice but to at least accept partial evolution.

ziffel · 05-23-2009, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Joey

Evolution has not been proven. Evolution is a lie from the fires of Hell.

http://www.compass.org/store/product.asp?id=S9SJURD
http://www.creationmoments.com/

Much evidence of a God in creation exists, but sadly many >Edited for consistency< fail to look at the evidences.

This is the 2nd time you've quoted a full block of my text, then replied to something I wasn't even discussing.

Serafina · 05-23-2009, 10:28 AM

Come on, he's only here to preach. You don't expect him to read as well, surely?

Bill Joey, in the unlikely event you read any replies, you might want to consider that atheists (those who lack a belief in any god) do not believe that satan, or any "devil" exists.

Your references to god and to satan are meaningless to us, you will never reach atheists with your brand of apologetics. You can stay in your closed-mind place and be ignored, or you can try to understand our position as we already understand yours.

Let's say that again. I believe that your god is a fictional story. I believe that satan is a fictional story.

I am not "filth" (your word), I am a human being. I'm a little flawed as are we all; but I'm trying to live the best life I can, and trying to make a positive difference to the world and to the people around me. I care deeply for my friends and family, for humanity, I care for science, for critical thinking. I have questions with uncomfortable answers, and sometimes I am happy to admit that I don't know all the answers.

Will this be a discussion?

Clivedurdle · 05-23-2009, 10:51 AM

Mark Twain wrote "Eve's Diary" in Dublin, New Hampshire in July 1905 for the Xmas edition of Harper that year.

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I couldn't get back home; it was too far and turning cold, but I found some tigers and nestled in among them and was most adorably comfortable, and their breath was sweet and pleasant, because they live on strawberries. I had never seen a tiger before, but I knew them in a minute by the stripes. if I could have one of those skins, it would make a lovely gown.

Extract from Adam's Diary

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When the mighty brontosaurus came striding into camp, she regarded it as an acquisition, I regarded it as a calamity

http://www.talkrational.org/showthread.php?t=2643

Zenaphobe · 05-23-2009, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Joey

Evolution has not been proven. Evolution is a lie >Edited for consistency<.

http://www.compass.org/store/product.asp?id=S9SJURD
http://www.creationmoments.com/

Much evidence of a God in creation exists, but sadly many of Satan's disciples fail to look at the evidences.

LOL, the first link takes you to a page where you can buy a DVD for $19.95. The web banner promotes a Bible conference called "Steeling the Mind".

Is that like making ones mind like an impenetrable steel box that no amount of reason can penetrate?

BJ, can I give you my address in a PM and you buy the video and have it sent to me please?

Quote:

Luke 6:30 (King James Version)
30Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.

dimbulb · 05-23-2009, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Joey

The method is to stick to the Word of God and it alone in debates.

Well it's nice to find someone who admits their faith isn't in God but rather in a book.

But then that's all you really have isn't it.

Pitiful.

hylidae · 05-23-2009, 12:49 PM

Any soul winnin' goin on in here yet?

Clivedurdle · 05-23-2009, 01:01 PM

This do?

http://www.soulmusic.com/

ziffel · 05-23-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hylidae

Any soul winnin' goin on in here yet?

Anyone feelin' the love of Jesus?

Somehow, ignoring people, calling them "wicked", and "filth" don't strike me as very loving. Reminds me of more of Fred Phelps than Jesus.

God hates atheists?

babelfish · 05-23-2009, 05:13 PM

He had me at "hello."

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05-23-2009, 10:28 AM	#83
Serafina Regular Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Derbyshire, England, UK Posts: 250	Come on, he's only here to preach. You don't expect him to read as well, surely? Bill Joey, in the unlikely event you read any replies, you might want to consider that atheists (those who lack a belief in any god) do not believe that satan, or any "devil" exists. Your references to god and to satan are meaningless to us, you will never reach atheists with your brand of apologetics. You can stay in your closed-mind place and be ignored, or you can try to understand our position as we already understand yours. Let's say that again. I believe that your god is a fictional story. I believe that satan is a fictional story. I am not "filth" (your word), I am a human being. I'm a little flawed as are we all; but I'm trying to live the best life I can, and trying to make a positive difference to the world and to the people around me. I care deeply for my friends and family, for humanity, I care for science, for critical thinking. I have questions with uncomfortable answers, and sometimes I am happy to admit that I don't know all the answers. Will this be a discussion?

05-23-2009, 12:49 PM	#87
hylidae Contributor Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Virginia, US Posts: 14,435	Any soul winnin' goin on in here yet?

05-23-2009, 01:01 PM	#88
Clivedurdle Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London UK Posts: 16,024	This do? http://www.soulmusic.com/

05-23-2009, 05:13 PM	#90
babelfish Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Augusta, Maine, USA Posts: 2,046	He had me at "hello."

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