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Old 04-25-2012, 06:06 PM   #11
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The essence of Christianity is found in just seven words:

'We love, because he first loved us.' 1 Jn 4:19

The essence of Christianity is found in just five letters: CANON.

In the Acts of John, the apostle followed Jesus looking for his footprints on Earth, but could not find any footsteps. John tried to touch Jesus but never made contact. This is far from the essence of the CANON.

John in the canon is a master heresiologist: he warns everyone that there are many anti-christian people in the world who refuse to confess that Jesus appeared in the flesh. The Church Inquisitions sorted these people out over the last 16 centuries.
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If there's an essential belief in Christianity, it's that Jesus died for your sins. That's the constant - that the crucifixion was somehow a redemptive event for all humanity.
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I'm not sure that the man left up on the cross was merely viewed as being the embodiment of the old Adam/Demiurge:

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His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death the enmity (τὴν ἔχθραν).
As I said earlier, the original myth of Christianity was that of salvation through a neo-philosophical spin on philia. As Hippolytus notes (slightly altered) that Mark originally wrote a longer version of his gospel with the following 'myth' woven into the narrative:

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You say that there is a good Deity who destroys the works of the Demiurge: then do not you plainly preach to your pupils, as the good Deity, the Love (philia) of Empedocles. You forbid marriage, the procreation of children, (and) the abstaining from meats which God has created for participation by the faithful, and those that know the truth. (Thinkest thou, then,) that thou canst escape detection, (while thus) enjoining the purificatory rites of Empedocles? For in point of fact you follow in every respect this (philosopher), while you instruct your own disciples to refuse meats, in order not to eat any body (that might be) a remnant of a soul which has been punished by the Demiurge. You dissolve marriages that have been cemented by the Deity. And here again you conform to the tenets of Empedocles, in order that for you the work of Love may be perpetuated as one (and) indivisible. For, according to Empedocles, matrimony separates unity, and makes (out of it) plurality, as we have proved.
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The essence of Christianity is found in just seven words:

'We love, because he first loved us.' 1 Jn 4:19

The essence of Christianity is found in just five letters: CANON.
Which one? The one chosen by murderers, or the one chosen by the murdered?

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According to murderers, or murdered?
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The essence of Christianity is found in just seven words:

'We love, because he first loved us.' 1 Jn 4:19

The essence of Christianity is found in just five letters: CANON.
Which one?

Crack open a bible.


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The one chosen by murderers, or the one chosen by the murdered?

The one published by Bullneck.


The other non canonical books were to be burnt.
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The essence of Christianity is found in just seven words:

'We love, because he first loved us.' 1 Jn 4:19

The essence of Christianity is found in just five letters: CANON.
Which one?

Crack open a bible.


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The one chosen by murderers, or the one chosen by the murdered?

The one published by Bullneck.
Murderers.
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If there's an essential belief in Christianity, it's that Jesus died for your sins. That's the constant - that the crucifixion was somehow a redemptive event for all humanity.

Behind the smoke and mirrors of the Nicaean propaganda and its war machinery is the essence of a "Big Lie".
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Which one?

Crack open a bible.


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The one published by Bullneck.


The other non canonical books were to be burnt.
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Why do you call Constantine “bullneck”. Is there a reason other than personal choice?
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Why do you call Constantine “bullneck”. Is there a reason other than personal choice?

From the History of Aurelius Victor

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Constantine
was a mocker
rather than a flatterer.
From this he was called
"Bullneck"
For ten years
a most excellent man;

For the following second ten
a brigand;

For the last,
on account of his
unrestrained prodigality,
a ward irresponsible
for his own actions."
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Why do you call Constantine “bullneck”. Is there a reason other than personal choice?

From the History of Aurelius Victor

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Constantine
was a mocker
rather than a flatterer.
From this he was called
"Bullneck"
For ten years
a most excellent man;

For the following second ten
a brigand;

For the last,
on account of his
unrestrained prodigality,
a ward irresponsible
for his own actions."


Victor Aurelius was a high ranking pagan official who wrote a short history of Rome, in which he insulted the emperor Constantine and called him names.


“Victor served as governor of Pannonia Secunda, in 389 he became urban prefect, senior imperial official in Rome.[1]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurelius_Victor
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