spin

What makes you think he thinks differently about the issue from what he professed? (There are lots of crystal balls and people willing to use them on the internet.)

Be nice to people. Take the time to adjust. Hipshots aren't going to impress fancy shooters.


spin

JGL53

Q. What is the difference between Jesus and a picture of Jesus?




A. The picture of Jesus is real.

dragoon

Thanks spin, but I took no offense. Actually I should apologize for plagiarizing Socrates and not giving credit. It was right I was called out on it.:redface:

But, you are right, neutral is exactly my position. I think the odds are there was cult leader who greatly influenced a school of thought and his "name" got tacked on to the movement. Do I know this for a fact? No, wasn't there. Does anybody know anything with a high level of probability. No, they weren't there either.

All we have to go on is cryptic and contradictory writings from a single source that makes claims that are unsupported. What we do know is that this early movement spawned a world-wide, very numerous and vibrant church that has since fragmented into thousands of sects and branches all claiming to be the "true followers of and have the one and only true knowledge and understanding" of somebody they call Jesus.

spin

I use allusions frequently, to literature, popular songs, films, books, cartoons. It adds interest for your reader.

Maybe bupanishad2012 will accept it as your thought the second time around.


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Newfie

We hove no evidence that God ever killed anybody personally. He doesn't get His hands dirty, but prefers to have His followers do it for Him.

And, storytime, isn't "BILLIONS" of people murdered just a bit of an exaggeration, or are you just using it to express a really big number, like how the bible uses the number a thousand?

bupanishad2012

I wasn't being nasty or flippant. I enjoyed the allusion to Socrates actually, and it was properly used. No one can be more anti-Yahweh and anti-Christian than myself. The "billions" are correct, IMHO, and the world would have been better off without Yahweh or Jesus. That goes for most other religions as well. "The critique of religion is the foundation of all critique," as Marx wrote. (I am no Marxist.) Actually, probably "billions" of people were killed on crosses or stakes since the beginning of history, including those killed by Vlad the Impaler as well as the Romans and others, so why should one more or less body on a "cross" (Greek "Stauros", stake) be the subject of anyone's worship?
Andrew

spin

I was reacting to "Now tell us what you really think!" Perhaps I misunderstood.


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bupanishad2012

I think I put an LOL (Laugh out Loud) after that statement. If I did not, I should have. It was ironical, in any case, so, let's forget it. I take what the Poster said (I don't get names very fast at 64 years old) literally, and they were quite eloquent enough for me.
Andrew

storytime

I was merely raining on Joseph's parade. I keep telling him that by his slapping Christianity and Islam in the face he automatically kicks Judaism in the butt.

IamJoseph

But we have evidence of which peoples did the killings and whose hands are dirty. The notion of one Jew being crucified is false: a better figure is 1.2 Million Jews. And the dirty hands do not point to God or the Jews but Rome.