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NottyImp · 01-27-2005, 07:15 AM

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Until one of these men or women show up at my local schoolboard, they can do whatever the hell they please.

Yes, but they have the vote, which amounts to nearly the same thing.

Xixax · 01-27-2005, 07:24 AM

True. Well, if the US continues the trend into becoming a "Christian State", I'll have to wave goodbye to it. The two most dangerous mental influences in history are Religion and Nationalism, and I'll be damned if we aren't doing our best to be the "best" at both.

NottyImp · 01-27-2005, 07:32 AM

Now, because I'm an inveterate old Lefty, I'd add "Capitalism" to that list, but I imagine there's plenty of folk on here who wouldn't agree with that.

Jimmy Higgins · 01-27-2005, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JonF

I'm pretty sure he is JP from EvC, and is not Salvador. I saw a claim, I forget where, that John Paul is ID's Bulldog (or something like that) at AARN. I dunno about that one.

Wasn't John Paul a bulldog over at BaptistBoard?

Xulfer Cirtsag · 01-27-2005, 10:27 AM

ugh, after looking, ugh.

Joe Meert · 01-27-2005, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Higgins

Wasn't John Paul a bulldog over at BaptistBoard?

JM: He may have been a bulldog in his early life, but once he latched onto ID it pretty much neutered him.

Cheers

Joe Meert

Shpongle · 01-27-2005, 04:42 PM

Heh, well I guess I'll find out if the double standards kick in. A poster just wrote, "your quote above also falsifies your alleged agnosticism to be a phony front attempting to stake out a position of objectivity that does not exist". (I was asking why there are patterns of morphological change with respect to hominid evolution, btw.)

Hmmm, I wonder what would happen if I accused him of Bible-idoltary...?

Fedmahn Kassad · 01-27-2005, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jcain6

John Paul is a creationist that is not Christian. That is all I know from his bio.

John Paul is definitely a Christian. This was pretty well established long ago when he regularly quoted the Bible as authoritative. He only claims not to be because of the fact that all Creationists are religious. So, if he pretends not to be a Christian, he can claim that he is a Creationist because of the evidence, and not because he is a Christian.

FK

Shpongle · 01-28-2005, 05:39 AM

Well, Fred stepped in and locked thread. He apparently disagreed with the insult against me "for the most part", but then made an excuse for the poster. Then he claimed I overacted, and lavished praise on the poster.

I have a feeling if the tables were switched around and had I accussed the poster of idoltary or being a "phony Christian" things would be different.

Anyone who's interested in the thread can view it here.

pangloss · 01-28-2005, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RGD

Who is the 'John Paul' who posts there? Is he the John Paul who used to post at EVC? Is he Salvador "Differential Equation" Cordova?

What he is saying about the Debmski E/F sounds suspiciously familiar.

You may be confusing him with IDsBulldog at ARN.

They are one and the same.

yes, same JP form EvC, also from OCW and NAIG.

Still making the same flawed argumewnts, still using the same statements, in fact.

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01-27-2005, 07:24 AM	#12
Xixax Veteran Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,101	True. Well, if the US continues the trend into becoming a "Christian State", I'll have to wave goodbye to it. The two most dangerous mental influences in history are Religion and Nationalism, and I'll be damned if we aren't doing our best to be the "best" at both.

01-27-2005, 07:32 AM	#13
NottyImp Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 728	Now, because I'm an inveterate old Lefty, I'd add "Capitalism" to that list, but I imagine there's plenty of folk on here who wouldn't agree with that.

01-27-2005, 10:27 AM	#15
Xulfer Cirtsag Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: no, not there, try again Posts: 1,752	ugh, after looking, ugh.

01-27-2005, 04:42 PM	#17
Shpongle Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Frozen North Posts: 9,920	Heh, well I guess I'll find out if the double standards kick in. A poster just wrote, "your quote above also falsifies your alleged agnosticism to be a phony front attempting to stake out a position of objectivity that does not exist". (I was asking why there are patterns of morphological change with respect to hominid evolution, btw.) Hmmm, I wonder what would happen if I accused him of Bible-idoltary...?

01-28-2005, 05:39 AM	#19
Shpongle Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Frozen North Posts: 9,920	Well, Fred stepped in and locked thread. He apparently disagreed with the insult against me "for the most part", but then made an excuse for the poster. Then he claimed I overacted, and lavished praise on the poster. I have a feeling if the tables were switched around and had I accussed the poster of idoltary or being a "phony Christian" things would be different. Anyone who's interested in the thread can view it here.

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