Dust

The atheist is truly the deciple of satan.

And then the atheist trys to refute that.

Sven

Did you mean "disciple"? Don't you think that this is a little bit insulting, despite of the attached smilie?

Do you have anything of substance to answer apart from rolling your eyes?

Dust

Yeah, I did mean diSciple.

And no, I don't have anything of "substance" to add, because I don't think the OP has any "substance".

Many of the assertions made are not fully complete on the facts, and others are completely wrong. A few of her assertions were true, but don't even matter.

Sorry, but don't have the time to waste on this.
This is between the fundi husband and the secular atheist wife.

Celsus

Why don't you point out the bits that are completely wrong, for everyone's enlightenment?
I think we can all learn from this. Please share.

Joel

Sven

When I'm already at nitpicking: You wrote dEciple.

Nice that you finally answer one of my posts. So may I ask (and perhaps get an answer since this is the fourth time I ask): Will you ever get back to the thread in Ev/Cr you fled from and show us that you "know all the facts and views on evolution"?

Translation: I think it is wrong, I have no arguments, but since I say it is, it certainly is wrong.

Sauron

Actually, all it demonstrates is that the author(s) were familiar with at least a few Egyptian names. It doesn't demonstrate anything about the specific claims surrounding Moses.

Edited to add - and I see that MiddleMan has already made this same point.

Celsus

However, it's highly unlikely that the authors would have invented from whole cloth. There would have been an oral tradition floating around before that. On the other hand, a search through the Bible for "Moses" (and for that matter, any of the patriarchs) in pre-exilic texts outside the Pentateuch and Deuteronomistic history makes for some interesting results.

Joel

Kryten

If I recall correctly, some evidence did in fact surface a couple of years ago in the Sinai that suggested that there had been wandering nomadic tribes. It seems some of the archeaologist's are now debating if in fact the timeline they have been using is correct, or whether it needs to be updated. The Israeli antiquities authority would be able to shed some light on this. I have since misplaced my documentation.

Ed

Hello Carrie. I am what most atheists would call a fundamentalist, though most fundies would not call me one because I am an OEC not a YEC. I will take your bait. Actually there are some researchers think that some of the petroglyphs in the Sinai were drawn by the Israelites. But anyway you not expect to find many artifacts associated with nomadic wandering so not finding much evidence would be expected. As far as camels, I believe I read recently that there is evidence that camels were domesticated at the time of Joseph.


Because I know that the Christian God exists and most archaelogists and historians have an antisupernatural bias I will have to trust the bible more. But where the evidence appears compelling then it can help us to interpret the scriptures better and understand God's word better. This has happened many times down thru history. God's revelation is progressive some things about his word we don't learn till later.

I believe all the historical narratives are true.

I don't need to.

You are going to have to provide references for these.

To tell people the great things God did for them and will do for them in the future.

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judge

The subject of the timing of domestification of camels was previously discussed here.

Carrie I must ask why it is that you believe camels were not domesticated at Josephs time? There seems good reason to doubt this.