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Old 10-24-2005, 12:00 PM   #11
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And should I move this thread now or wait a bit?
It definitely belongs in the humor section.
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Old 10-24-2005, 12:04 PM   #12
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the answer is simple

this amazing precision of Pi is for our times

a lot of other amazing things are for our times
Circles were different back then.

A pi equal to three worked out just fine for the god of the bible and was a lot handier than our cumbersone pi.
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none of you has given an answer to this affirmation of mine

the Divine Name Elohim has numerical proprieties

which are absolutely unique

and which can be discovered only with the help of the computer. Thus, the exact sequence of the five letters that make up this Name could not have been guessed by pure chance by any "human sacred author of holy books" of the biblical époque.

These demonstrations will thus give those people who are intellectually “honest� but who doubt in the existence of the Numerical Biblical Language (or consider the analysis misleading), the opportunity to change their minds definitely.

it is an affirmation that I have scientifically shown
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none of you has given an answer to this affirmation of mine
I'll take a stab, then.

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the Divine Name
You haven't established that it's "divine." This isn't an affirmation, it's an unsubstantiated assertion.

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Elohim has numerical proprieties
So does EVERY name if you assign numbers to the letters. Watch: Joe. If J=1 and O=6 and e=5 and you add them up you get 12. Twelve is the number of the tribes of Israel and "Joe" is the "nickname" for Joseph...one of the members of the 12 tribes! WOW! But, if you don't like double numbers and you want a single, you can add the 1 and the 2 and come up with 3. Three is the number of the trinity (duh) so the name of God (as the entirety of the God-head) is Joe.

See how easy that is?

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which are absolutely unique
I doubt it.

But, since that concludes your assertion I see no need to quote you further.
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You have added up the numerical values of the letters in the first verse of Genesis [ALTHOUGH THE DIVISION OF GENESIS INTO VERSES WAS A LATER ADDITION TO THE TEXT] and divided by some other numbers, and finally found a multiple of Pi.

Certainly an omniscient deity could find a clearer method of communication.

But the claim of science indicates that this is headed to Science and Skepticism with the other Bible Code threads.
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can you find me another word as the Word Elohim?

surely you cannot find it

in fact in my web site I have incontestably shown that it is an unique word


These are the conclusions that you can find in my web site:
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can you find me another word as the Word Elohim?

surely you cannot find it

in fact in my web site I have incontestably shown that it is an unique word


These are the conclusions that you can find in my web site:
Can you explain to those of us too lazy to visit your web site just what is so special about that word? It looks like you were about to...

I thought the authors of the original Bible Code nonsense gave up and admitted defeat after it was made abundantly clear that one could get as much useful information out of Moby Dick as the bible itself. What makes your proof any more valid than theirs?
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Present the evidence. And in case you didn't follow the links above, biblical mathematical principles are so thoroughly discounted it's incredible. Especially since people managed to do the same things with War and Peace and Lord of the Rings.

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By means of a specific analysis and by applying the relative numeric value to each letter of the text, it is possible to demonstrate that an Intelligence - infinitely superior to human beings – transmitted to divinely inspired scribes the exact sequence of the letters contained in the first five books of the Bible. For believers this infinite Intelligence is called God. For non-believers it remains an inexplicable mystery.
This is absolutely laughable. Present you evidence that a divine creator did this here, I'm not going to look on your website to verify every assertion you make that is backed up by debunked sacred numerology. It's not any more of a mystery to us unbelievers then the "proof" of elves. It doesn't exist.

You have yet to present a single bit of evidence, making only assertions you don't even post links to prove. Since you are only making extraordinary claims, with absolutely no backing behind them, it is easily determined that you are absolutely incorrect in your baseless assertions. Present the evidence and perhaps this will change.

and could you please tell us why Elohim (A plural word...by the way, which contrasts with Yahweh) is such a special word?
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By means of a specific analysis and by applying the relative numeric value to each letter of the text, it is possible to demonstrate that an Intelligence - infinitely superior to human beings – transmitted to divinely inspired scribes the exact sequence of the letters contained in the first five books of the Bible. For believers this infinite Intelligence is called God. For non-believers it remains an inexplicable mystery.
People are pattern recognizing animals, with an unusually complicated brain. It certainly would not take God to encrypt something, but so far you have demonstrated nothing of any sort. You claim that there is a title to the bible and that it contains proof of god? Just because you were able to detect something which appears to be hidden in a dusty text does not mean that there is a god. This is the same kind of argument that the bible code is based off of, and it not an inexplicable mystery to people of sound mind.

The solution is when dealing with a great amount of data, one can use methods to extract whatever they want. Numbers are infinite and sequences can find anything they want if a person has enough time to waste towards frivilous ends.

God must be really weird to have hidden something 'so profound' from civilization for about five thousand years. You must be really important in the grand scheme of things.

The proof for Mithras is very simple, look up in the sky and the thing that hurts your eyes is Mithras. He's very real and doesn't hide encrypted in dusty books.
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can you find me another word as the Word Elohim?

surely you cannot find it

in fact in my web site I have incontestably shown that it is an unique word


These are the conclusions that you can find in my web site:

But "god" has many names. Elohim is just one of them. Why, if it is so special and numerically valuable, does Elohim change his name throughout the text? And what does the relationship between the Hebrew name "Elohim" and the Canaanite "El" throw into this mix? If it were not for the Canaanite "El", Elohim would not exist. How can there be spiritual significance in a name that is a derivative of another?
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