Magus55

Can't use science. Science wasn't around for the process of "evolution" among species. Gay individuals can't reproduce on their own, which they would have had to do, had it been natural without the evolutionary or creationist model.

Hedwig

God failed to make a paradise in which mankind was so content that he would have no desire to stray or even think about going against god's wishes. God allowed the serpent into the garden. God gave man free will so that man could fall. All the while, god knew that man would fall. How many times do I have to point out that if god seems to have worse odds in my favor than the lottery?

(Hey, you know? I almost feel like I'm in chat. )

Hedwig

I have to ask...what about bisexuals like me? We can reproduce...and, if there is something in the genes that can create the possiblity of a gay child being borne to me, then I've passed along the trait quite successfully.

Can't wait to hear about the fornication bit, btw.

Abacus

Um, yeah, that's what I said.

At any rate, why do you believe that the morality of sex depends on the possibility of reproduction occuring?

Magus55

God did make it content, but pride made humans want more (sin). God gave man free will so they wouldn't be robots, and would choose to love Him and obey because they wanted to, not because they have no choice. Would you want your kids to be walking robots who only loved you because there is no other option? Sounds pretty horrible to me.

Magus55

Because God said be fruitful and multiply. Homosexuals can't do that, and sodomy is a disgusting sin. There is a reason Sodom and Gomorrah were burnt to the ground. They were rampant with homosexuality and sodomy. Thats where the term sodomy came from.

Hedwig

As I've said before: being a robot sounds preferrable to eternal, unending, unyielding torture in the fire that can never be quenched.

And why did god make humans prideful?

(And with this note, ladies and gentlemen, I think I'll bid you good night. It's been fun, Magus, but I have a long day of interviewing for jobs I won't get tomorrow. )

Abacus

Magus, homosexuality is natural. It occurs in species besides humans.

Magus55

Well, as I've said, you in absolutely no way have to face Hell. You can be in Heaven too!

God didn't make humans prideful. Pride is just the negative of the virtue of humility. If you choose to not be humble, you become prideful.

Good luck with your interviews!

Hedwig

Oh heck, one more (you and your siren songs, Magus. ):

Sodomy isn't only something that occurs in the gay community. Many heterosexuals do that as well.

And I was told by my Sunday school teacher that the story of Sodom and Gammorah was about being hospitable. It had nothing to do with the sexual morality of the townsfolk. Hell, Lot offered up his virgin daughters to be raped by these men and god seemed just fine with that.