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Old 06-24-2004, 03:44 PM   #11
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V7 - Somehow I'm not scared. Would you like to try to make a coherent comment on Hebrews?

thats reasonable..

Hebrews 10.32
Remember those earlier days after you had recieved light, when you stood your ground in a great contest in face of suffering.



This is what I went through 2 years ago at the SAB skeptics board.

I was fairly new to the world of forums and unassuming of the hatred that exists out there. I talked about scripture and everyone ended up blaspheming and turning at me as individual. I went through all types of hatred and put-downs by the heathens that exist there. A deep dark abysmal pit of a skeptic board if I might add...

Can we see where I am coming from?
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Old 06-24-2004, 03:48 PM   #12
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I am one of the Christ-believing christians who have been dragged through spiritual mud by hardcore skeptics. I came out more in enlightened and faithful as result .
Impossible! Logicaly and with reason is there anything other than a Christ-believing christian?
OOops! Forgot about Katholics and "Christians" who dis agree wit ya!

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All skeptics want to do is drag a genuine christian down into thier own spiritual misgivings called 'pits' according to Jesus.
Nah, all this skeptic wants is to meet an actual genuine christian, not somebody who has hijacked Christianity for their own self glory and warped agender.

[QUOTE=Visionary7I thank every one of you for the results.. [/QUOTE]

Which are...?

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Frankly I think God saw this lopsided injustice and decided to pamper me with monstrous and supernatural faith in the divine instead.
Yeah...

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In short, skeptics simply do not know what they are dealing with.
Oh yes I do... frankly

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Heb. niv 9.16
So some guy claimed his death was a covenant to save mankind from ... is your outlook on life ?


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In short this single verse in John sums it all up..
For judgement, I have come into this world, so that the blind will see, and those who see will be made blind.
So you are saying you were once blind or is the stuff your revealin' now blindness and soon you'll see or are you maybe admiting that you have purposely become blind?

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I am one of the quite rare christians with confidence to wade around in forums like this and remain steady in bible faith.
We don't give out gold stars for that great accomplishment , will a smiley guy do?

P-S-S-T stick around, 40 sometin' posts doth not a victor make!

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Go figure..I've spent years try to convince others about Jesus,
You're doing it wrong... you don't have to convince anyone you think you know about Jesus... just that Jesus actually is God... Are you saying you know? How? Has he actualy spoken to you? [Oh-Oh!]

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It's not suprise when I am suddenly given spiritual rocket boosters to elevate me above the stratosphere of bullcrap into divine truth.
Yeah I agree... Reality Bytes!

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Thank you Jesus
You is most welcome! [Oh-Oh!]

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I think I'll eventually end as a testimony for Christ as I get know everyone here.
HA! "You've Got Another Thing Coming!" But if it makes you feel better and stops you from hurting your family and society... I believe you believe, Jesus is God...

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I'll end scaring people who do not believe because I myself have seen and heard it all.
Um, OH-OH! V-E-R-N!

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Hebrews 10.32
Remember those earlier days after you had recieved light, when you stood your ground in a great contest in face of suffering.
So are you trying to say we are making you suffer...? Give me a break! A few people disagree with you and your new walking stick and you want to cry out for Jesus to smite us! How very, very anti-christian of you! Come to think of it, how do I discern you [which the odds are now going for it] from a false prophet, Visionary7? You seem to take great pride as to leave us non-belevers as is and not share your true salvation story with us, or is this as they say personal? Remember the soul you save might just be your own...


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I went through that contest folks, I am more than armed to go through it again.
It ain't over yet, Satan...
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Old 06-24-2004, 04:31 PM   #13
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I am one of the Christ-believing christians who have been dragged through spiritual mud by hardcore skeptics. I came out more in enlightened and faithful as result.

All skeptics want to do is drag a genuine christian down into thier own spiritual misgivings called 'pits' according to Jesus.
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Frankly I think God saw this lopsided injustice and decided to pamper me with monstrous and supernatural faith in the divine instead.

In short, skeptics simply do not know what they are dealing with.
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I am one of the quite rare christians with confidence to wade around in forums like this and remain steady in bible faith.

Go figure..I've spent years try to convince others about Jesus, It's not suprise when I am suddenly given spiritual rocket boosters to elevate me above the stratosphere of bullcrap into divine truth. Thank you Jesus

In other words, you're saying:

Jesus loves me,
This I know
'Cause my ego
Tells me so.

Jesus thinks that
I'm hot shit,
So don't say he's
Full of it.

Now, all of your
Arguments
I ignore with
Confidence.

Thanks to Jesus,
I'm so blind,
Reason cannot
Change my mind.
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Old 06-24-2004, 05:02 PM   #14
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What does a skeptic wish to know?
As much as possible. At least I do. The difference is the standard that we use to judge matters.

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Either way it stems from either doubt or disbelief in any type of bible manuscript.
Doubt or disbelief in any type of claim until evidence is presented. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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Impossible! Logicaly and with reason is there anything other than a Christ-believing christian?
OOops! Forgot about Katholics and "Christians" who dis agree wit ya!



Nah, all this skeptic wants is to meet an actual genuine christian, not somebody who has hijacked Christianity for their own self glory and warped agender.



Yeah...



Oh yes I do... frankly



So some guy claimed his death was a covenant to save mankind from ... is your outlook on life ?




So you are saying you were once blind or is the stuff your revealin' now blindness and soon you'll see or are you maybe admiting that you have purposely become blind?



We don't give out gold stars for that great accomplishment , will a smiley guy do?

P-S-S-T stick around, 40 sometin' posts doth not a victor make!



You're doing it wrong... you don't have to convince anyone you think you know about Jesus... just that Jesus actually is God... Are you saying you know? How? Has he actualy spoken to you? [Oh-Oh!]



Yeah I agree... Reality Bytes!



You is most welcome! [Oh-Oh!]


HA! "You've Got Another Thing Coming!" But if it makes you feel better and stops you from hurting your family and society... I believe you believe, Jesus is God...



Um, OH-OH! V-E-R-N!



So are you trying to say we are making you suffer...? Give me a break! A few people disagree with you and your new walking stick and you want to cry out for Jesus to smite us! How very, very anti-christian of you! Come to think of it, how do I discern you [which the odds are now going for it] from a false prophet, Visionary7? You seem to take great pride as to leave us non-belevers as is and not share your true salvation story with us, or is this as they say personal? Remember the soul you save might just be your own...




It ain't over yet, Satan...
How can I respond to you like that?

My advice is to go to church and ask questions. Not asking people on the internet what to do.
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As much as possible. At least I do. The difference is the standard that we use to judge matters.



Doubt or disbelief in any type of claim until evidence is presented. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Then it would be very easy for you to dismiss what I say on grounds of lacking extrordinary evidence.
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Then it would be very easy for you to dismiss what I say on grounds of lacking extrordinary evidence.
I would say that pretty much sums it up.

Have a nice stay visionary7.
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Old 06-24-2004, 07:21 PM   #19
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To the OP, Just two questions:

1) If you were wrong, would you want to know it?

2) If so, given your current reliance on faith, and the impenetrable lead-lined box within which you have hermeneutically sealed ( ) your mind, how would you ever find out if you happened to be wrong?
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Visionary7- "dragged through spiritual mud by hardcore skeptics"

I think that you've come here because you have doubts. You are in a spiritual crisis and your are flirting with us heathen unbelievers in a futile attempt to strengthen your religious convictions.

"Christ-believing christians "

a bit redundant, don't you think?

"Frankly I think God saw this lopsided injustice and decided to pamper me with monstrous and supernatural faith in the divine instead.
In short, skeptics simply do not know what they are dealing with. "


I think that you are in a crisis and need natural (not super natural) help.

"Go figure..I've spent years try to convince others about Jesus, It's not suprise when I am suddenly given spiritual rocket boosters to elevate me above the stratosphere of bullcrap into divine truth. Thank you Jesus"

You seem to have an imaginary friend that you talk to. It sounds like you've reached the point where your imaginary friend is talking back to you and giving you orders. I hope that you get help before it is too late. You are on very dangerous ground.

"I'll end scaring people who do not believe because I myself have seen and heard it all."

"that was over 2 years ago, I still can't get over how dark that board is."


"Besides, doesn't all forms of doubt mentioned stem from mind of man?"

Doubt does indeed come from the mind. It is a powerful tool that we use to discern fiction from reality.

"And why does stuff I write get split and moved?"

The moderators on this forum work hard to determine where these threads belong. Many of us have found out that the moderators have moved our threads.
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