Schneibster

The same argument "works" for religion.

GenesisNemesis

It was freakin ALIEEENNSSS.

Keith&Co.

When you say 'warhead malfunction' the first thing i think of is 'how in the hell would you know?'
The primary function of a warhead is the big kaboomie. there are some tests for the components of the warhead, but not too much. The only two ways for it to really malfunction are to release a nuclear explosion when it's not supposed to, or to NOT go nuclear when it is desired to do so.
They don't use nuclear warheads on the test flights, we haven't had a nuclear exchange since we started putting them on missiles and i don't remember having heard of 20 unplanned craters around the country, so what exactly malfunctioned?

Of the small tests of actual warheads that i've performed, a very very small number have failed. Those were replaced. I don't recall any reports of warheads being bathed in red light rays. Kind of hard to do, since the war heads are not typically exposed to the sky.
I dunno about the air force, but in the Navy they were always under one or another roof, inside a cannister, or under the nose cap.

GenesisNemesis

But, you see, that is the strange thing about it! The warheads were not exposed to the sky, yet the light still reached to them!

ALLLIEEEENNSSS.

ZouPrime

.RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

Keith&Co.

that would be a strange thing.
How would witnesses, who could not see through nose caps and muzzle hatches, KNOW that the light went through all that to shine on the warheads?

Straight Hate

I watched all four parts. Despite the messy debate format, it was kind of interesting. I don't find any of the arguments convincing, but one thing that caught my ear was that France just released 50 years worth of 'UFO' documents. Anyone heard about this?

Enigma

Isn't it obvious?

The witnesses were aliens too.

badger3k

The first question to ask is: "Is this information accurate?" - a lot of UFO believers make all kinds of claims (and Larry King is a great venue for all kinds of woos - he just loves him some psychics) that turn out to be untrue. So, we'd need to verify the reliability of the people on the show, and look at whether anything actually happened or not. Then, if there is an occurrence, we can go look for a cause.

I remember reading about Soviet missiles, and how many of them have degraded over time from their storage conditions. That is one possible source of disabled missiles. There are others, including sabotage, and it is best to look for normal, non-UFO solutions first (as they are more likely to be the cause). Once normal explanations have been ruled out, then we can move on to the more fantastic claims. But, even if something was found, and there are no non-ufo explanations, it does not mean that the UFO definitely did do something, it just means that we do not know. If there is a UFO in the area, and it shoots a ray that hits the missile, and these are verifiable, then we have evidence that gives a high probability of the UFO being the cause of the malfunction. Of course, the UFO is still unidentified, and we cannot say it is an alien spaceship (unless we shoot it down).

I've heard too many of these on Art Bell which had absolutely no basis in fact to take UFO witnesses at their word. We need to verify, verify, verify.

sensate

Is that really Fred Phelp's youtube account?