Originally Posted by PhilosopherJay

Hi WVIcagold,

The really important question for those of us living in the 21st Century is if they were fast zombies or slow zombies?
We might also wonder what happened to them. Did they just go back to their graves after a night of wild partying, or did they rejoin their families? What if the spouse had remarried? Who had rights then?

Is there anything in Jewish law about remarriage to a zombie? Don't some early manuscripts really translate as:

Mark 10:11-12 [Jesus] answered, “Anyone who divorces his zombie and marries another woman commits adultery against her. And if she divorces her zombie and marries another man, she commits adultery.”


Warmly,

Jay Raskin

Originally Posted by sotto voce

Aha. But lore was then largely transmitted orally, a factor that supposed scholarship fails to take into account in this whole period. If Luke was correct, there were twelve good men and true who acted as a self-regulating factual reservoir, challenged by Sanhedrin and Herodians, but supported by the observations of countless ordinary citizens of Palestine and of the Jewish diaspora from Spain to Persia. It mattered not when Matthew wrote. The lore was there, inviolate, even before the resurrection, and must have been recorded from the start of Jesus' ministry, and indeed before it.

One must remember that many ordinary Jews, as well as the established powers— that of the Sanhedrin, and later the Roman Empire— had no interest in preserving any record of Jesus. What was left in Judaea after the Sanhedrin and Simon ben Kosiba had persecuted Christians would have been destroyed in 136 by the Romans, who by then were also opposed to Christianity. The Romans of course had power to censor and destroy over a much greater region than Palestine. What they could not reach, Islam would have destroyed in its relentless path. Added to this was the fragility and ephemeral nature of papyrus and parchment; so what the censor's fire did not destroy would have been corrupted by the elements. There really isn't any reason to expect records of this nature.



No, he says they were resurrected at the moment that Jesus died. That was, and remains, significant, and not just for Christians. Resurrection was already recorded several times in the Scripture, and rabbis were in the habit of ascribing unusual events at the deaths of pious fellows, so Matthew's record would not have been lost on them. Of course, rabbis, whose very existence was contrary to Scripture, would not have been disposed to preserve any record of this embarrassment.

These saints appeared to people in Jerusalem after Jesus' resurrection. If those appearances were in private, to believers, as with Jesus after his resurrection, the general public would not have noticed anything. The only real problem is what they did with themselves in the interim!



That's guesswork. And a red herring. :frown:

Reported thrice. That is what is unquestionable, what is to the point, and what matters.

No doubt the sensible explanation from the New Testament perspective is that these bodies simply disappeared after their appearances, as Jesus did, but in their cases, unobserved.

Originally Posted by sotto voce

So:

'I am disqualified from being in the bible because I am not an idiot'

is untrue.

Originally Posted by WVIncagold

Dude you are arguing for the belief in ZOMBIES. you do realize that regardless who saw them. ZOMBIES in town Zombies talking to believers Zombies Zombies LMAO. There is no credibility in arguing that Zombies exist no matter how much of a word salad you use.

Originally Posted by Mageth

Originally Posted by sotto voce

Aha. But lore was then largely transmitted orally, a factor that supposed scholarship fails to take into account in this whole period.

Originally Posted by rlogan

500 zombies prowling around

Originally Posted by sotto voce

“One of the most striking differences between a cat and a rumour is that a cat has only nine lives.”— borrowed from Mark Twain

Originally Posted by Mageth

Invoking Mr. Twain, are we?

Originally Posted by Mageth

Invoking Mr. Twain, are we? Well then, let's note that he also said: "[The Bible] is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies."

Seems pertinent, considering the zombies.