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Codec · 01-04-2007, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BioBeing

Can anyone prove God does not exist using the Bible?

Amos 2:4

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⁴ This is what the LORD says:
"For three sins of Judah,
even for four, I will not turn back.
Because they have rejected the law of the LORD
and have not kept his decrees,
because they have been led astray by false gods,
the gods their ancestors followed,

They are being lead astray by false gods, the gods their ancestors followed. This group of gods worshipped by their ancestors includes the current one, as certainly the ancestors worshipped this god too, so god must therefore be in the set of false gods. Thus god is false, and false gods are not gods. QED

Prove:
a) Whales evolved from land animals, or
b) that Ringo Starr was the 5th horseman of the apocalypse.

IndigoDad · 01-04-2007, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Codec

Prove:
a) Whales evolved from land animals

Psalm 104

25 There is the sea, vast and spacious,
teeming with creatures beyond number—
living things both large and small.

26 There the ships go to and fro,
and the leviathan, which you formed to frolic there.

27 These all look to you
to give them their food at the proper time.

28 When you give it to them,
they gather it up;
when you open your hand,
they are satisfied with good things.

29 When you hide your face,
they are terrified;
when you take away their breath,
they die and return to the dust.

30 When you send your Spirit,
they are created,
and you renew the face of the earth.

Prove Apple is better than Microsoft.

Codec · 01-04-2007, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by IndigoDad

Psalm 104

25 There is the sea, vast and spacious,
teeming with creatures beyond number—
living things both large and small.

26 There the ships go to and fro,
and the leviathan, which you formed to frolic there.

27 These all look to you
to give them their food at the proper time.

28 When you give it to them,
they gather it up;
when you open your hand,
they are satisfied with good things.

29 When you hide your face,
they are terrified;
when you take away their breath,
they die and return to the dust.

30 When you send your Spirit,
they are created,
and you renew the face of the earth.

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Prove Apple is better than Microsoft.

Song of Solomon 2:3

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³ Like an apple tree among the trees of the forest
is my lover among the young men.
I delight to sit in his shade,
and his fruit is sweet to my taste.

Clearly the apple tree is Apple (the tree from which apple products are made), and the forest is all the other software companies. But of all the trees in the forest, apples products are the ones sweet to taste. This implicitly condemns Microsoft I fear. Explicit comparison was probably avoided out due to fear of legal action.

The attempted overthrow of apple is also clearly documented...
Daniel 4:10-14

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These are the visions I saw while lying in my bed: I looked, and there before me stood a tree in the middle of the land. Its height was enormous. The tree grew large and strong and its top touched the sky; it was visible to the ends of the earth. Its leaves were beautiful, its fruit abundant, and on it was food for all. Under it the beasts of the field found shelter, and the birds of the air lived in its branches; from it every creature was fed.

"In the visions I saw while lying in my bed, I looked, and there before me was a messenger, a holy one, coming down from heaven. He called in a loud voice: 'Cut down the tree and trim off its branches; strip off its leaves and scatter its fruit.

The fruit tree is clearly an allusion to apple, and the calling messenger was probably Bill himself calling for the destruction of apple.

Its really too easy...

Prove: JFK was shot by the pope.

IndigoDad · 01-04-2007, 06:14 AM

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Nice one on the Apple MS thing.

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Originally Posted by Codec

Prove: JFK was shot by the pope.

1 Samuel 17:25 - Now the Israelites had been saying, "Do you see how this man keeps coming out? He comes out to defy Israel. The king will give great wealth to the man who kills him. He will also give him his daughter in marriage and will exempt his father's family from taxes in Israel."

The Israelites and Israel are references to the US being the new shining city upon a hill (Reagan speech).

The Man is referring to the atheistic and humanistic Soviet Union.

Coming out...to defy is referring to the advances of communism in the Western Hemisphere, specifically in Cuba (Cuban Missile Crisis).

The King is in reference to the US President at the time, JFK.

The give great wealth refers to the fact that JFK and the Kennedy family is wealthy and is Catholic and supports the Catholic church.

The man who kills him would thus then be the head of the Catholic church, the pope.

As a bonus...

His daughter is actually in reference to Maria Shriver. "Daughter" is being used to mean junior female family member as Maria is actually JFK's niece (AFAWK).

Give him ... in marriage is then in reference to that Maria has been married to a Catholic, Arnold Schwarzenegger (reference to Ahnold being Catholic).

Exempt his father's family from taxes is also a bonus. Joseph Kennedy was the patriarch of the Kennedy family. Much in an Abrahamic way. With all the talk of Camelot and Kennedy being America's Prince, that makes the family be the citizens of the US, just as Abraham is the father of many nations. Anyhow, part of Kennedy's legacy is the proposed tax cuts.

And again, Israel is the US.

That was a fun one!

(Maybe nearly 40 years as an American evangelical fundamentalist makes me kinda good at this.)

Now prove that OJ did it.

Jack the Bodiless · 01-04-2007, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Codec

Prove:

b) that Ringo Starr was the 5th horseman of the apocalypse.

I'm stuggling somewhat with this one, but I see some hope for eventual success.

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Originally Posted by Revelation

6:8 And I saw, and behold, a pale horse: and he that sat upon him, his name was Death; and Hades followed with him. And there was given unto them authority over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with famine, and with death, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

Each of the previous horsemen was singular, but Death (the fourth) does appear to be followed by an assistant of some sort. A fifth horseman?

Link "Hades" with Ringo Starr, and we're done.

Angrillori · 01-04-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack the Bodiless

I'm stuggling somewhat with this one, but I see some hope for eventual success.

Each of the previous horsemen was singular, but Death (the fourth) does appear to be followed by an assistant of some sort. A fifth horseman?

Link "Hades" with Ringo Starr, and we're done.

EASY!

Isaiah 14:12
How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!

Since morning star obviously is meant to presage ringo starr (look atthe similarities between morning and ringo and star and starr), I think the link is obvious!

Johnny Skeptic · 01-04-2007, 10:45 AM

Theists typically have arrived at their conclusions before they even begin to conduct research. On the other hand, skeptics do not do that. For instance, atheists who do not believe that any being exists who is able to speak a new galaxy into existence would certainly be willing to change their minds if a being who claimed to be the God of the Bible showed up and created a new galaxy. If a being did that, surely some people would become Christians who were not previously convinced. If the God of the Bible exists, he obviously wishes to limit the number of people who believe that he exists.

I am an agnostic. If a being showed up, claimed that he was the God of the Bible, and healed all of the sick people in the world, which by the way Christian doctors are trying to do, I might consider becoming a Christian. If God exists, he obviously does not want to give me that chance, which is a justifiable reason in and of itself for rational minded and fair minded people to reject him.

Jack the Bodiless · 01-04-2007, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Angrillori

EASY!

Isaiah 14:12
How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!

Since morning star obviously is meant to presage ringo starr (look atthe similarities between morning and ringo and star and starr), I think the link is obvious!

...Ah, yes. And Ringo is going to cause a lot of devastation when he falls:

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Rev 8:10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

Codec · 01-04-2007, 01:00 PM

Angrillori & Jack the Bodiless

I'm in awe!
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douglas · 01-04-2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack the Bodiless

Link "Hades" with Ringo Starr, and we're done.

I think Ringo has done that for us. From his song "Devil Woman."

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But you're like the devil with horns in your head,
The only way I'll get you is to get you in bed.
Devil woman, you're like an angel to me,
Devil woman, this is the way it should be.

'nuff said?

01-04-2007, 10:45 AM	#27
Johnny Skeptic Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 19,796	Prove anything using the Bible Theists typically have arrived at their conclusions before they even begin to conduct research. On the other hand, skeptics do not do that. For instance, atheists who do not believe that any being exists who is able to speak a new galaxy into existence would certainly be willing to change their minds if a being who claimed to be the God of the Bible showed up and created a new galaxy. If a being did that, surely some people would become Christians who were not previously convinced. If the God of the Bible exists, he obviously wishes to limit the number of people who believe that he exists. I am an agnostic. If a being showed up, claimed that he was the God of the Bible, and healed all of the sick people in the world, which by the way Christian doctors are trying to do, I might consider becoming a Christian. If God exists, he obviously does not want to give me that chance, which is a justifiable reason in and of itself for rational minded and fair minded people to reject him.

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