Jeffrey Gibson

It's the smirk that gave me away, wasn't it!

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Jeffrey

Jeffrey Gibson

Be aware that the draft is a draft -- it still contains typos and lacunae in footnotes, and infelicities of wording. And given its intended audience -- educated and biblically literate lay folk -- there's probably too much Greek. The text boxes in the draft will probably need to be increased in number with some of the material in the footnotes brought up into them.

And FWIW, Richard Pervo has had a look at the draft and finds the argument (especially the dismantling of the long dominant eschatological interpretation of the Prayer) convincing.

Jeffrey

spin

Actually, it was the hello, breakfatht eyes!

(The Winchester boys would lop that head in an instant.)

Jeffrey Gibson

Er .. what kind of eyes??

Jeffrey

spin

A classic icon of American culture, Sylvester the cat greeting Tweety Pie: "hello, breakfatht!" (I could go on to John Lennon, "she looked so beautiful, I could eat her! Well, Well, Well, oh well.") You devil, you.

steve_bnk

Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth, as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.

Poor desperate people giving thanks for enough food for one day and praying for relief. Very puzzling.

stephan huller

Just going through it now. Very good. Very compelling reading. I like the boxed 'explanation' of words and concepts that's going to be above the head of most people. Your analysis is penetrating and it moves very well. You lay out a clear path for the direction of the investigation. More to comment but correction needed on p. 27:

"with calling upon God to heDisciples' Prayer us avoid having"

stephan huller

A minor question. Are you sure that's the C S Lewis quote at the beginning of Chapter Three? For some reason I remember it differently, but maybe that's old age.

stephan huller

Not to belabo(u)r the point but I could swear you had a different take on whether there were parallels with the early Jewish prayers (p. 42). Never mind of course. An intelligent person goes where the evidence leads him, not the other way around. I can't help mentioning it. Your reasoning is sound.

stephan huller

The points you made a month ago appear on p. 45 (the late dating for the Jewish prayers etc). Jeffrey reappears. Ignore my comments above.