Zeichman

Good God, man. What century are you living in? Seriously, read a damn book on the topic. You're wrong. It's as simple as that.

Sheshbazzar

You have a book on the topic of where Santa Claus lives?
My grandchildren have several, which I have read to them.

Solitary Man

Were they written by scholars? If not, then you're just talking out your ass.

paarsurrey

Hi

I think there is no secular source available with the secular historians. If there would have been one CatholicsProtestants must have submitted it; there seem to be none.

There is one undoubtful source of Quran only which mentions name of Jesus and that is why I belive he existed. GodAllahYHWH has created this universe and has not left it unattended; He knows everything and its in and out , so His testimony must be accepted and his testimony is enough, no further testimony is needed logically.

However, there is no compulsion to believe in Jesus- one of the ProphetsMessengers and Chosen one of GodAllahYHWH; please treat (belief in Jesus) as optional.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

aa5874

Faith is illogical. At one time, belief in Apollo was accepted. And what about the Egyptian Gods of antiquity, didn't they create the universe before God, Allah or YHWH? And what about Vishnu, what did he create? Millions of people think that Vishnu is powerful for thousands of years.

The Sun God is a lot older than the the Gods you mention, and He must be powerful, because He is still here with us and without Him there is no life. His testimony must be accepted, and it is enough, no further testimony is needed logically.

spamandham

A supermajority of people on this planet doubt the Qur'an, so it certainly isn't undoubtful. Further, it was written 600 years later than the purported time of Jesus, so it hardly counts as primary evidence in that regard.

DrZoidberg

What about this theory. Jesus actually lived. Did some of the stuff in the Bible. Some was added, and all of it was embroided. Like everything else in history.

spamandham

It's possible, but you could take that same approach with any mythical being and completely miss out on the opportunity to understand the motives and mindset of the people who invented them.

DrZoidberg

Not really. Because we have the Bible. We know what the people who wrote it wanted to convey. Because it's in the Bible. Whether or not any of the stuff really happened is pretty irrelevant isn't it?

Nietzsche just made up Zarathustra. That doesn't in the least retract from the message.

aa5874

On what is your theory based? What stuff did Jesus do? For such a theory to have any significance, one must find some source external to apologetics that place Jesus of Nazareth in the first century. No such external non-apologetic source can be found up to now.