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Cesc · 09-04-2012, 03:42 PM

"Is this not the carpenter's son?"
http://www.equinoxpub.com/equinox/bo...k.asp?bkid=504

Also:
http://www.freeratio.org/showthread....homas+thompson

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The historicity of Jesus is now widely accepted and hardly questioned by most scholars. But this assumption disarms biblical texts of much of their power by privileging an historical interpretation which effectively sweeps aside much theological speculation and allusion. Furthermore, the assumption of historicity gathers further assumptions to it, shaping the interpretation of texts, both denying and adding subtext. Scholars are now faced with an endless array of works on the historical Jesus and few question what has been lost through this wide-spread assumption of historicity. Is This Not the Carpenter? presents a very valuable corrective: a literary rereading of the New Testament.

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Introduction: Thomas L. Thompson and Thomas Verenna

Into the Well of Historical Jesus Scholarship
1. Jim West (Quartz Hill School of Theology) – A Very, Very Short Introduction to Minimalism
2. Roland Boer (University of Newcastle) – The German Pestilence: Re-assessing Feuerbach, Strauss and Bauer
3. Lester L. Grabbe (University of Hull) – “Jesus Who is Called Christ”: References to Jesus Outside Christian Sources
4. Niels Peter Lemche (University of Copenhagen) – The Grand Inquisitor and Christ: Why the Church Doesnt Want Jesus
5 Emanuel Pfoh (National University of La Plata) – Jesus and the Mythic Mind: An Epistemological Problem

Paul and Early Christianity: Historical and Exegetical Investigations
6 Robert M. Price (Johnnie Colemon Theological Seminary) – Does the Christ Myth Theory Require an Early Date for the Pauline Epistles?
7. Mogens Müller (University of Copenhagen) – Paul: The Oldest Witness to the Historical Jesus
8. Thomas S. Verenna – Born Under the Law: Intertextuality and the Question of the Historicity of the Figure of Jesus in Paul’s Epistles

The Rewritten Bible and the Life of Jesus
9. James Crossley (University of Sheffield) – Can John's Gospel Really Be Used to Reconstruct a Life of Jesus? An Assessment of Recent Trends and a Defence of a Traditional View
10. Thomas L. Thompson – Psalm 72 and Mark 1:12-13: Mythic Evocation in Narratives of the Good King
11. Ingrid Hjelm (University of Copenhagen) “Who is my Neighbor?” Implicit Use of Old Testament Stories and Motifs in Luke’s Gospel
12. Joshua Sabih (University of Copenhagen) – Born Isa and Baptized Jesus: The Quranic Narratives about Isa
13. K. L. Noll (Brandon University) – Investigating Earliest Christianity Without Jesus

If someone pays the price(!) and buys it, please review!

Thomas L. Thompson's response to Erhman:
http://www.bibleinterp.com/articles/...sdfootnote1sym

Toto · 09-04-2012, 03:52 PM

Neil Godfrey has been doing an extensive review on his blog

http://vridar.wordpress.com/

Cesc · 09-04-2012, 04:04 PM

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Neil Godfrey has been doing an extensive review on his blog

http://vridar.wordpress.com/

Thanks.

Tom Verenna · 09-05-2012, 10:25 AM

More info here along with additional reviews if you are interested:

https://tomverenna.wordpress.com/201...er-is-out-now/

Cesc · 09-06-2012, 07:06 AM

Thanks, Tom.

Toto · 12-31-2012, 02:57 PM

The book is now available for pre-order in an affordable trade paperback version.

Tom Verenna's blog

order here through Acumen.

Not yet available in paperback on Amazon (or via: amazon.co.uk)

stephan huller · 01-01-2013, 09:37 AM

Let's all wish a wonderful and prosperous year from Tom Verenna. This book has been wonderful for him and let's hope he fulfills all his goals in the greater academic community. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

Toto · 05-15-2013, 01:46 PM

UPDATE: Amazon has announced a paperback version for $17.71

Is This Not the Carpenter?: The Question of the Historicity of the Figure of Jesus (Copenhagen International Seminar) (or via: amazon.co.uk)

Stringbean · 05-15-2013, 02:42 PM

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Let's all wish a wonderful and prosperous year from Tom Verenna. This book has been wonderful for him and let's hope he fulfills all his goals in the greater academic community. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

That's all the more I reason I won't buy it.

spin · 05-15-2013, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stephan huller

Let's all wish a wonderful and prosperous year from Tom Verenna. This book has been wonderful for him and let's hope he fulfills all his goals in the greater academic community. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

That's all the more I reason I won't buy it.

What's the logic to that reaction?

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09-04-2012, 03:52 PM	#2
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Neil Godfrey has been doing an extensive review on his blog http://vridar.wordpress.com/

09-05-2012, 10:25 AM	#4
Tom Verenna Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 75	More info here along with additional reviews if you are interested: https://tomverenna.wordpress.com/201...er-is-out-now/

09-06-2012, 07:06 AM	#5
Cesc Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 322	Thanks, Tom.

12-31-2012, 02:57 PM	#6
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	The book is now available for pre-order in an affordable trade paperback version. Tom Verenna's blog order here through Acumen. Not yet available in paperback on Amazon (or via: amazon.co.uk)

01-01-2013, 09:37 AM	#7
stephan huller Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: seattle, wa Posts: 9,337	Let's all wish a wonderful and prosperous year from Tom Verenna. This book has been wonderful for him and let's hope he fulfills all his goals in the greater academic community. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

05-15-2013, 01:46 PM	#8
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	UPDATE: Amazon has announced a paperback version for $17.71 Is This Not the Carpenter?: The Question of the Historicity of the Figure of Jesus (Copenhagen International Seminar) (or via: amazon.co.uk)

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