buddahead

ITS ALL A MYTH

Nietzche said all myths are truths
Joseph Campbell says all myths
are tribal and scientific truths.
So the Bible is made up of mythological stories
but they have real value to you and I
The Bible is a science book, an astronomy book
an anatomy book, and a psychology book.
Religion has no idea of the hidden truths in the Bible
as they go around reading and teaching the stories
in their literal sence, which is DEAD letter for the masses
which acts as a control book for the masses.

Luke 14:26 Luke 14 Luke 14:25-27

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Do you hate your Mother and Father? according to Jesus you must.


Jn.14:27
"Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto
you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you."

Acts 10:36
"The word which God sent unto the children
of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ."

Mt.10:34
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I
came not to send peace, but a sword."

IS. 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more

Joel 3:10
Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong

Lk.12:51
"Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth?I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided,three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the sonagainst the father; the mother against the
daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law."

Lk.22:36
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment,
and buy one."

So which is it, do we beat swords into plowshares or beat plowshares into swords, or do we sell our clothes and go buy a sword ?


"You will set fire to their fortified places, kill their young men with the sword, dash their little children to the ground, and rip open their pregnant women." 2 Kings 8:12 This is God's commandment mind you. Rip open pregnant womwn, wow! What A god! My god! can you believe that? Holy mackeral!



"Mothers ye shall dash your babies against rocks, and eat the first born of your daughters" "and fathers ye shall eat the first born of your sons" Wow ! eat your children and bash them against rocks ! Really ! What a cruel God!

BUT WAIT ! It says

EZ:20 Then said I, Ah Lord GOD! they say of me, Doth he not speak in parables?

1 Cor. 3:2 ''Yet among the mature we do impart wisdom. We impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God.

Oh ! these are parables and hidden wisdom, now I get it. Why then hasnt religion told me this, why hasnt your average soap box tv evangelist or corner church, black collar wearing minister told us this?
Because they havnt a clue, theyve scarcely even read the bible, so how could they possibly
know, much less teach you anything?


THE BIBLE AS SYMBOL
Our first order of business in this quest is to see if we can justify considering the Bible as symbolic rather then literal. We must use the Bible itself.

1.2Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. So here is the Bible itself telling us not to take it literally.

2. Galatians 4:24 Which things are an allegory: the definition of a myth includes the term allegory. Here again the Bible tells us it is symbolic.

3. Matthew 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them: The Bible is saying that all of Jesus statements were symbolic.
4. Mark 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: Here the fact that this is all consciousness is made clear. It says to know the mystery of the Kingdom of�*God. Where is the Kingdom of God ? . (Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.) The statement concludes by saying that "unto them that are without". Outside of the meditative state. Outside of the inner realm of consciousness where exists the Kingdom of God..

5. Psalm 78:2 I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old: Here the Bible states that GOD speaks in parables . And what are dark sayings of old. Obviously they are symbolic statements.

6. In the Book of Proverbs describes wisdom. It explains how one becomes wise. Proverbs 1:6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.

7. And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 2 cor.4:3

8. But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away. 2 cor. 3:14

9. We should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter." (Romans 7:6)

10. Then said I, Ah Lord GOD! they say of me, Doth he not speak in parables? EZ:20

11. 1Cr 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, [even] the hidden [wisdom], which God ordained before the world unto our glory.

12. Eze. 17:2 Son of man, put forth a riddle, and speak a parable unto the house of Israel;

13. Jdg.14:19 And the Spirit of the LORD came upon him, and he went down to Ashkelon, and slew thirty men of them, and took their spoil, and gave change of garments unto them which expounded the riddle. And his anger was kindled, and he went up to his father's house.

14. Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of GOD to conceal a thing: but honor of kings is to search out a matter.

15. Isaiah 9,10 And he said, Go and tell this people, hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Make the heart of this people fat, make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes.

Here again we see that God speaks in mysteries, riddles and parables, He puts riddles in peoples mouths, he shuts their eyes and ears, and that is Gods glory that he conceal a thing, and make you and I search it.

There’s no doubt is there, about what is being said here, the Bible was written in a certain metaphorical language of old, which is mythology.


this is the hidden meaning "their minds are blinded"—it is as if a veil covers the Old Testament when they read (1 Corinthians 3:13-16). When Jesus’ disciples failed to see that hidden meaning in the Old Testament, He called them "fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken" (Luke 24:25). Of those Paul wrote that the whole Old Testament tells of Christ, but with those who do not see who were not ready to understand the hidden meanings in His parables, Jesus said, "This people’s heart has grown dull, and their ears are hard of hearing, and their eyes they have closed." (Matthew 13:15) But when His disciples were ready to understand the deeper meaning, Jesus said, "Blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear." (Matthew 13:16)


Religion is evil lunacy.
They do not understand that the Bible is a book of
ancient myths, that have literal value to your life.
The bible read literally , contradicts itself at every turn
but when understood spiritually, enlightenment ensues

breathilizer

We know. That's why we post here.

buddahead

yes youre right


Has Any One Ever Heard Gods Voice?

john 5:37

"And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape."

Well That explains it "That should settele it once and for all, no one has ever heard Gods voice" except George Bush, other loonys and all those phony tv evangelists. God speaks to them all the time. Right?

But the verse is very clear as what the truth is.

Religion is filled with people claiming God told them this or that. God does not speak English and the only way that one can open a channel for God to make changes is meditation. Close down the lunatics who hear voices instructing them to do harm

Religion is evil lunacy.

Darth Dane

Do you understand in what spirit it should be read?

Magus55

No he doesn't, which is why he is just spouting off crap about verses he never even bothered to study and see what they actually mean. Typical.

Mageth

How do you know Buddahead never bothered to study the Bible? It sounds like Buddahead is fairly familiar with the Bible to me. And, of course, what the verses "actually mean" is open to interpretation. Evidence for this is the wide variety of Christian beliefs that have emerged from different interpretations.

I think Buddahead brings up some valid points, though I personally wouldn't take it quite as far as he does. I agree that much of the bible is mythical, and some metaphorical value can be gleaned from it. However, as metaphor, I think it's time has passed. It was metaphor intended for, and suited for, a society 2000+ years ago. If we're going to use metaphor, we need some new myths.

Mageth

Buddahead said:

Joseph Campbell says all myths are tribal and scientific truths.

I don't recall Campbell ever saying that all myths are scientific truths, nor that all myths are tribal. He seemed to believe that some myths are tribal, and some are universal and express metaphorical truths about the human condiditon/collective unconscious (following Jung). Further, he expressed the usefulness of myths, for example as guides for taking us through the various stages of life.

Magus55

Because Just glancing over His post, and seeing some of the verses he posted as objections or problems, jumped out at me as clearly being out of context and misunderstood. Sure, its easy to grab a bunch of verses from the Bible that on the surface, seem problematic, but most people who do that never actually bother to learn what the verses mean. The Bible is more than a book of words. It has spiritual depth.

buddahead

Yes youre right

I have studied the bible, and although it can be difficult to understand, it is not beyond your intelligence to do so.
I can interpret almost any verse for you if you wish.

here are some examples of how to interpret the bible.

Buddahead

Samples of how to read the Bible


1. "...thou hast put off my sackcloth, and girded me with gladness;"
Psalms 30:11


Sackcloth represents the poor. In this case the spirit is poor. The person is down. God has provided a new spirit and the depression is lifted.



2. "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of
donkeys, an whose emission was like that of horses." Ezekiel 23:20

"She" is the mind. The mind lusts after the lower physical things. The genitals represent life, creation, origins. The geneitals of the lower are brutish and stubborn (donkey). They are the kinds of thoughts that will not follow the higher. They stay where they are. The emission means the seed that enters "her". Its life is brutish and stubborn but its origin is the horse which is the carrier to heaven. The horse is always used to transport the Gods to heaven, like Pegasus. The heaven however is the mind that is controlled by the stubborn brutish nature. The combination of the two is a person who is very stubborn and brutish but takes charge and directs things from the lower or physicl nature.



3. "Fair Babylon, you destroyer happy those who pay you back the evil
you have done us! Happy is he who siezes your babies and dashes them
against the rocks." Psalm 137:8-9

Babylon is the lower mind which is filled with attraction to the physical. It is not spiritual at all. To seize the minds babies is to cut off the new thoughts. The ideas and concepts that are born out of the lower mind are considered babies and to dash them against the rocks is to destroy the misguided new thoughts and concepts through the spirit which is steady. The Bible refers to it as the rock of salvation and the old song is called Rock of Ages.



4. "And Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, Behold, Esau my brother is a
hairy man, and I am a smooth man:" Gen 27:11

Hair that grows out of the body can mean either the Spirit or the physical senses which must be cut away. It depends on the sect. Some cut their hair such as Buddhists because to them hair symbolizes thoughts from the lower mind. Others let their hair grow (Islam) because it represents spirit. Here Esau who is the culprit in the story has hair which means lower thoughts while Jacob is of the spirit without lower thoughts growing from him.



5. "Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts
satisfy thee at all times" Proverbs 5:19

Her means the higher spirit. The inner light. Hind and Roe are deer which are symbols of a closeness to nature and a leaping toward the higher nature. The breasts provide milk which is spiritual food. Understanding , enlightenment. Thus the proverb says to allow the mind to commune with nature reaching up to the higher and feed on the milk or understanding that comes forth from the new mind. Interpreted by bill Donahue of hidden meanings


Can you interpret these verses?

7 "And you shall eat it as barley cakes; and bake it using fuel of
human waste in their sight."Ezekiel 4:12

8. "I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was
sweet to my taste." Solomon 2:3

9. "My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels
were moved for him." Solomon 5:4

10. "You will set fire to their fortified places, kill their young men
with the sword, dash their little children to the ground, and rip open
their pregnant women." 2 Kings 8:12

11. "and you shall have a stick with your weapons; and when you sit down
outside, you shall dig a hole with it, and turn back and cover up your
excrement. Because the LORD your God walks in the midst of your camp, to
save you and to give up your enemies before you, therefore your camp
must be holy, that he may not see anything indecent among you, and turn
away from you." Deut. 23:13-14

12. "I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. lev 26:16

Hard huh ! Its all symbols, dark sayings and allegory, the verses and stories in the bible are like hard nuts, that have cracked many a tooth, for the true seeker of truth.

Mageth

But his interpretations appear "misunderstood" to you in the light of your interpretations.

It appears to me that Buddahead has put quite a bit of effort into trying to find meaning in the verses. Once again, you are working on the assumption that your interpretation of the meaning is the correct one.

Also note that theologians, apologists, and biblical scholars, in different faiths and denominations, have struggled over exactly what many verses/passages in the Bible mean for centuries. There simply is no one universally accepted meaning for all the verses in the Bible. It does not exist.

You're really asking Buddahead and everyone else to accept what you perceive as the meaning.

I'm pretty sure that is exactly what Buddahead is saying. And who is to say that two different people diving into that "spiritual depth" will end up in the same place?