phoenixgirl

Wow, that information is published on the internet, therefore, it must be true!

And if we truly have dead minds darkened by an evil spirit, then what good do you do being here? Isn't it better to spend time praying to some pie-in-the-sky sugar-daddy who can magically combat the mortal sins of having a brain and knowing how to use it than to come here and clog up your lil' brain with things that actually make sense?

That choking or nauseating feeling that you get when someone responds in a way that you can't refute . . . sure, maybe it's some evil consciousness that wants to toy with you for its own perverted reasons . . . but maybe, just maybe, it's because you really feel in your heart that your beliefs should make sense, and you find that they don't. I've been there. I can relate. It's scary, but it's also liberating. No more mental gymnastics. No more fairytales. No more adopting beliefs based on geography or convenience. No more surpressing who you are.

Ya know, people who choose to fight a certain "sinful" lifestyle -- like the pastors who photograph license plates at porn shops or that little group of people who drive around the country protesting gay marriage -- often have a secret fascination with or attraction to that lifestyle. Is that the case with you Gospelog? What makes you so fascinated with atheists? I mean, if Christianity were the truth, then those who deny the existence of the deity of Christianity (in many cases those who once subscribed to that belief) would be the least fertile soil for evangelism. Generally those of average and below intelligence, those with stagnant or unfulfilling social lives, and those without a strong sense of self or set of morals will be most susceptible to Christianity. Why are you fighting a battle that you know you can't win? Do you want to prove your faith wrong? Because if you can't deal with the thought of that happening, you probably shouldn't hang around here anymore.

Lord Emsworth

Wait a min. He died? Ha, and there silly me thought he was supposed to be God ...





If what I am doing ("refusing Him") is so evil, then I will take the punishment for it.

Soul Invictus

1) Who did he say he was?
2) Who is Christ? I've never heard of anyone by that name?
3) Can Christ be against me, in not believing what I say about myself?

Kassiana

You guys are killing my brain cells with your dead spirits.
--Dagnabit, I was going for your hair follicles with my Nair spirit. I've gotta find a better spell.

Stacey Melissa

People lie all the time. What's to stop a bum named Jesus from lying? Or for that matter, what's to stop a bunch of storytellers from making up lies about a bum named Jesus who may or may not have ever lived?

While people lie all the time, you'd claim that there was only ever one guy who was God. I'd imagine we both agree that people lie all the time. I just happen to think there is one more lie and one less demigod than you think. I'm not sure where faith comes into my end of the deal.

Stacey Melissa

That's too bad for him, since I didn't need it. He really could have saved himself the trouble.

.... with logic.

I've really gotta stop answering trolls. But Jesus fucking Christ... it's just so entertaining!

SLD

Hey Gospelog - welcome back and glad you decided to change your mind and stick around.

But don't leave because your brain might get infected. Let it get infected!!!

That's the point, n'est ce pas?

Are you here to berate us? or are you here to learn a little and expand your mind? You don't have to convert, but I would still challenge you to discover your faith more clearly.

I'm not really sure what your point is here. You claim that we should not believe that "Jesus" lied. But I'm not really sure what you mean.

How do you or anyone know what Jesus said in the first place? He left no writings - all that we have are four rather contradictory texts, that by all admissions were written, not years, but decades after the alleged events. And even then they were written by people who were not eyewitnesses to the events. Mark doesn't even make such a claim (supposedly he is repeating Peter's version of the events); Matthew and Luke borrow from Mark so they too cannot be original source material, and John is so far out in left field, it is generally believed to have been written in the 90's AD - almost 60 years after the events it supposedly portrayed.

Yet you just think we should believe it. And even more so, you cannot articulate a coherent reason (other than we might all end up in hell) for not believing it. Why? Is God so insecure that he cannot stand a little questioning of him when he gives us such a bizarre story to go on? He's supposedly all loving, omniscient, benevolent, and yet if you don't believe this bizarre half-ass story that he gives you - you're fucked.

Does this even make sense to you? It sure doesn't to me. If God didn't want me to doubt him, than why did he give me a logical brain to see through this crap?

I can't believe in such a god. If there is a god, he could do better than this. He could at least make a logical and coherent story. And he could at least make it original - instead of ripping off stories from other religions and even using lines straight out of the mouths of other gods.

No, if there is a god (and I don't rule that possibility out), I prefer to think of it as merely the creator of the laws of physics - who brooks no toleration for violations of those basic laws, but who created such laws so that questioning beings could discover the truth of his creation without fear. A real god would create a universe far more beautiful than the one portrayed in the Bible - and if there is one, he's done a much better job than Yahweh ever did.

SLD

Queen of Swords

This is hilarious!

First, Gospelog says that he will only stay if we are "respectful".

Later, he posts, "Now you know why I must stay away from this place."

Finally, it's "That is all I have to say. Talking to men (perhaps it doesn't occur to him that women can access the Internet too - QoS) with dead spirits insensitive to God can only be done for a short while so as not to be infected."

What is this, a never-ending farewell?

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fried beef sandwich

I've actually studied a bit of Egyptian history in college ... I would appreciate it if you would actually present your evidence or maybe provide passages or excerpts from "Miracles of Exodus" so I can look into it. I unfortunately do not have the luxury of time or $$$ to go out and buy the book myself to look into it.