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EricK · 10-09-2007, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt the Medic

Am I the only one that hates labeling anything "Mc"?

Perhaps it's because my last name begins with it and it means "son of".

Is this an example of the "only true scotsmen" fallacy?

Fr. Gottisttot · 10-10-2007, 12:25 AM

I like the phrase, and think it could really catch on.

My uncle, who is Catholic like everyone else on my mom's side, calls a quick rite of reconciliation "McFesh".

Jobar · 10-10-2007, 05:49 AM

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Mcbelief just doesn't have that ring to it though.

I like it, but it would no doubt be tastier if it had bacon on it.

Unless it was McJewish, of course.

But I like it, too. I'll probably find ways to use 'McChristian' in conversation- with other freethinkers, anyway.

Wedge · 10-10-2007, 10:12 AM

Just throwing another one out there:

Long-standing tradition in my family is to refer to 'spaghetti Christians.'

They're the ones who say:

"I'm a Christian because Jesus had great ideas, and I like church because people are all trying to do good, and Christianity is really a beautiful thing, even though I don't believe in the virgin birth or anything like that.

Oh, and I really like spaghetti too, so I must be Italian."

I'll have to add McChristian to the family vocabulary.

Cheese · 10-10-2007, 10:28 AM

hmmmm...doesnt quite fit like Burger King Christians....what with the Whoppers they try to sell!

Dark Jedi · 10-10-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt the Medic

Am I the only one that hates labeling anything "Mc"?

Perhaps it's because my last name begins with it and it means "son of".

McBitch?

the Radio Star · 10-10-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamlet

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That's a grammar issue about avoiding sexist language. The only three solutions are to a) use his/her in every sentence. Get's old really fast. b) use female pronouns or c) use they and their for the singular person, which I consider bad grammar. That's a topic for another thread.

What about d) use male pronouns? Why is that not one of the solutions? And by the way, I think you should start a thread on it. (If you don't, I might have to actually start a thread, and that's almost unheard of.) It would be an interesting topic. I have never understood why almost everyone automatically assumes that it is sexist to use the male pronoun as the stock pronoun when you need the singular.

I'll see you here.

Karalora · 10-10-2007, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hamlet

I have never understood why almost everyone automatically assumes that it is sexist to use the male pronoun as the stock pronoun when you need the singular.

It's not sexist on a case-by-case basis. It is sexist when male pronouns are used exclusively, as was traditionally the case. Some of us try to point this out by using female pronouns generically. If male readers feel excluded by the feminine pronouns, it might help them to realize how consistent use of masculine pronouns effectively excludes women.

the Radio Star · 10-10-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Karalora

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Originally Posted by Hamlet

I have never understood why almost everyone automatically assumes that it is sexist to use the male pronoun as the stock pronoun when you need the singular.

It's not sexist on a case-by-case basis. It is sexist when male pronouns are used exclusively, as was traditionally the case. Some of us try to point this out by using female pronouns generically. If male readers feel excluded by the feminine pronouns, it might help them to realize how consistent use of masculine pronouns effectively excludes women.

Please join us here.

This thread is about McChristians.

WWJD4aKlondikeBar · 10-11-2007, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by the Radio Star

Maybe if we start an Internet meme it will one day be in a real dictionary.

Well paste some church sign text onto a McDonalds billboard and make a wiki page!

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10-10-2007, 12:25 AM	#22
Fr. Gottisttot Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: da Upper Peninsula Posts: 1,272	I like the phrase, and think it could really catch on. My uncle, who is Catholic like everyone else on my mom's side, calls a quick rite of reconciliation "McFesh".

10-10-2007, 10:12 AM	#24
Wedge Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: On a hill. Posts: 288	Just throwing another one out there: Long-standing tradition in my family is to refer to 'spaghetti Christians.' They're the ones who say: "I'm a Christian because Jesus had great ideas, and I like church because people are all trying to do good, and Christianity is really a beautiful thing, even though I don't believe in the virgin birth or anything like that. Oh, and I really like spaghetti too, so I must be Italian." I'll have to add McChristian to the family vocabulary.

10-10-2007, 10:28 AM	#25
Cheese Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Waterloo, Ontario Posts: 463	hmmmm...doesnt quite fit like Burger King Christians....what with the Whoppers they try to sell!

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