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Old 03-19-2007, 04:22 AM   #1
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Please, no, I am not an historian.

However, with regards to the historicity of Jesus the Christ, it has been overlooked that there were followers of the non-historic Christ, the unbegotten son of God, the 'phantom', as far back as , at least, the 2nd century.
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The silence of the first century with respect to any concepts of 'Christ' gives me the impression that 'Christ' was fabricated in the 2nd century, and this 'Christ' may have been an 'unbegotten phantom'.
No, the Christ is always the essence of the begotten after which man was formed. This Christ is different in history to the extent that he makes representation of the age in each generation which at that time was Jesus but not until the Jewish identity of Joseph was first crucified and later raised into the upper room where it was placed subservient to intuition.

In Catholicism Christ is wherein each one of us is fully man and true to our own self = the mind of Christ. So the phantom is the essence of man wherein we are eternal and in this same [eternal] essence are we the the continuity of infinity that took up residence in Rome and hence the vicar of Christ.

Yes it takes courage to claim that but those are the metaphysics behind that claim.
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Old 03-19-2007, 10:27 AM   #2
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It is my view that if Jesus the Christ was indeed a real person, living and preaching in synagogues, constantly at odds with the chief priests, there would have been no need for these interpolations.
Jesus is the phantom, Christ is the man and Joseph is the Jew. Until Christ was reborn in the mind of Joseph, the impression (phantasia = what has already come to light) of his dual nature did not exist in the mind of Joseph. This phantom is what caused the conversion (reform of the shepherds into apostles) that led to the conversion of his own mind and that is what the Gospels are all about. The Gosples tell us how this man by the name of Joseph worked out his own salvation, and yes, he did preach from the precinct of the synagogue and was constantly at odds with the chief priests because they are needed to pull his cocoon off, so to speak, or he would have been a hunchback for life never to get crucified on his own cross.

He was just a reformer with the wisdom to reform his own mind and it is about him (and there were many more like him Galations 5:27 tells us) that the Gospels were written by the mythmaker who according to me was this Joseph later known as John. He actually wrote all four of these to make such an intricate weave between them wherein they are inerrant.

Now don't forget that the phantom is based on a perception (aisthesis = immediacy) of that which fills the limbs and that must be made immediate as the being itself (aisteta = indefinite nature of the being = on). This would be where eternal life is at . . . wherefore I hold that the baptism candle of our Advent wreath is aimed to be our first awakening to this phantom.
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