enigma555

I'm confused...

NASA is a travel agency?

Which customers have they provided tickets for again?

Funny that I haven't been taught travel booking 101 in any of my four years in aerospace engineering...

ExtraSense

Here is an another example:
Retired U.S. Navy Rear Admiral Craig E. Steidle, the new Associate Administrator, Office of Exploration Systems;
Master of Science degrees in Systems Management and Aerospace Engineering.

How does this qualify him for science and exploration boss?

NASA science is an oximoron.

ES

Stiletto One

What majors WOULD you suggest then?

Lessee, fairly recent and high-profile science projects from NASA:

- Ion Drive
- Neural Networks for hypersonic flight control computers (shockwave-riding aircraft)
- Any of the X planes
- Aerospike engines

Shadowy Man

Actually, I don't think it is ok, but I don't think there are many scientists who would be capable of being a good administrator. Not that O'Keefe has necessarily been a good administrator.

ExtraSense

Sure, all of theese belong to the space transportation. I do not question NASA capability in that. Ufortunately, it is an empty hat in exploration.

It is obvious with Mars mission.

Do you know that they do not have on the rovers any thermometer, barometer, anemometer, microphone?
Do you know that they are missing the life and civilization, that rovers are reporting?
Do you know that they do not take pictures of the same area with a time interval, which would allow for detection of movement, or other changes?

For example, do you think that they understand what these pictures mean?:



NASA lost its marbles. If you search the Internet for "NASA management",
you get 99 pct of items talking about NASA mamgement failures, so there is nothing new about it.

ES

Shadowy Man

The people who work at STScI are NASA employees. The people who work at Goddard Space Flight Center are NASA employees. The people who work at JPL are NASA employees.

And why do you not consider it part of NASA's ability to get science done to contract work out to other organizations?

Let's say there's a company that builds lasers. Let's say that they have an MBA as their CEO instead of an engineer or physicist. Let's say that they don't build all the parts for the lasers themselves. Do you hold all that against them even if they make good lasers?

And you still haven't stated what you think NASA's incompetencies are. What science has NASA bungled, other than not identifying rocks as skulls?

Occams_Razor

Douglas N. Daft, the Chief Executive officer and Chairman of Coco-Cola;
bachelor's degree in mathematics and a graduate degree
in administration.

How on Earth would THAT qualify him for food science engineering, beverage concoction and bottling operations boss?

Coco-Cola food science is a joke, and you should know it!

COCA-COLA food science is a onomatopoeia.

Sven

"NASA ITSELF"? Is this a new version of the "no-true-scotsman" fallacy?

I think I have to quote Occams_Razor again who summed it up quite nicely:

ExtraSense

Yes, this is what I am saying:
NASA is a soft drink company, that pretends it can do science

ES

Stiletto One

tl;dr

Stuff like this makes me wish that censorship was legal, but that voice in the back of my head reminds me that it would turn the United States (and everywhere else) into a hotbed of religious fundamentalism.