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I make no claim to expertise in this area. In truth, I'm a bit of an agnostic on the historicity question, though I lean towards the affirmative. At the same time, how can you not be struck by the embarrassing absence of 1st-hand accounts? Where do we read, for example, "I asked Jesus and he said ..." or "When Jesus, Miriam, and I were discussing this matter, he said ..."? |
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That's some fascinating information there, ConsequentAtheist. I was aware of the doubt surround those three letters, but I hadn't had the opportunity to investigate the specific issues in detail yet. If you can tell me who Udo Schnelle is and where you got that information from, I think I may borrow it for discussion on another forum.
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Anyway, I've raised your exact point before as well, when arguing with someone who thinks that because I believe other historical persons existed and I believe Jesus existed, I should also believe the things the early church tells us about Jesus. Logically, that does not follow. |
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The rub of a historical Jesus is that there's no reason for why he shouldn't have existed in the same capacity as any other Jewish Messianic Claimant. Its even more (not sure if irony is the word)... odd that so much literature was dedicated to this archetype, and yet the evidence against his existence is all the more compelling BECAUSE of this rather than in spite of it.
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