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Old 01-18-2012, 10:50 AM   #41
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The Christian right as we understand it in the US is definitely not moving towards mythicism.
The mythicists are doing what they can to push the Christian Right in this direction. It's only a matter of time until all that work bears fruit.
This is insane. The mythicists in the US don't talk to the Christian right.

The Christian right still recites the Nicene creed
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Every time you attack the idea of Christ the Jew, you give strength to the idea of Christ the Aryan solar symbol or some other pagan myth. Why would it be surprising if people who hate Jews embrace mythicism? Doesn't mythicism allow them to continue to call themselves Christians, but gets rid of all that pesky Jewish business?
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I know that many of the mythicists here are decent people, and find it disgraceful that they are accused of aiding and abetting the Jew-hating Christian Right. But these mythicists should know what game they are playing in.
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Every time you attack the idea of Christ the Jew, you give strength to the idea of Christ the Aryan solar symbol or some other pagan myth. Why would it be surprising if people who hate Jews embrace mythicism? Doesn't mythicism allow them to continue to call themselves Christians, but gets rid of all that pesky Jewish business?
Obviously you either did not read, or did not comprehend the significance of this
These Christians most certainly do not and will not accept the idea of their Christ Jeebus as being Aryan solar symbol or some other pagan myth,
nor do do they conform to the ignorant idea that their Jeebus ever was a damned Jew.
They (or we) don't need to 'attack the idea' because the idea is nothing but an ignorant and provably anachronistic and erroneous reading of the texts.
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Well, when you start hearing preachers talk like Acharya S, don't say I didn't warn ya.
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Well, when you start hearing preachers talk like Acharya S, don't say I didn't warn ya.
Some, willfully abandoning and departing from their faith's well known, and long established beliefs and traditions, of course will. But many will not.

WTF do you think it is that you are 'warning' us about? That some marginal Christian preachers will further betray the shallowness of their equally marginal beliefs?
I doubt that you will find many here that will be very deeply troubled by that prospect.

Meanwhile, the truly devout and convinced will continue to refine their beliefs and arguments, and attempt through political action to accomplish pressing conformity to their social machinations and religious convictions upon all through use and abuse of Politics, the Courts and the Law.
They have before, and they are determined in Jeus name, to do so again.
It is not those 'falling away' asshats that anyone needs to be worrying about.
It is the religiously devout and religiously motivated that present a present and lasting danger to every freethinking and freedom loving person alive.
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WTF do you think it is that you are 'warning' us about?
That those whom you hate most are about to embrace your beliefs.

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It is the religiously devout and religiously motivated that present a present and lasting danger to every freethinking and freedom loving person alive.
But you have no problem joining with them in attacking Boteach?
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WTF do you think it is that you are 'warning' us about?
That those whom you hate most are about to embrace your beliefs.
I don't hate anybody. Some people hold stupid and superstitious religious ideas and agendas that make them a danger to the rights, freedoms, and peace of others.
If anything makes them abandon these perverse religious ideas and stupid superstitions, or causes them to 'embrace' a belief in the rights of others to live their lives in peace, not subject to forced endorsment of their religious superstitions or politically enforced religious rules, then I have little to objection to their embracing of any of my beliefs. Why would I?

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It is the religiously devout and religiously motivated that present a present and lasting danger to every freethinking and freedom loving person alive.
But you have no problem joining with them in attacking Boteach?
Not really. The guy is making a total ass out of himself on the world stage. whether it it I that point it out or anybody else. And a lot are.
Being religious does not imply that anyone is always wrong about everything.
So No, I have no qualms about joining these religious fruitcakes in pointing out the ridiculous antics of another religious fruitcake.
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Shmuley agreeing with Palin

Sarah Palin Is Right About 'Blood Libel'

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Jews did not kill Jesus. As the Roman historian Tacitus makes clear, he was murdered by Pontius Pilate...
The guy is incapable of saying anything non-controversial.

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Despite the strong association of the term with collective Jewish guilt and concomitant slaughter, Sarah Palin has every right to use it [blood libel]. The expression may be used whenever an amorphous mass is collectively accused of being murderers or accessories to murder.
The amorphous mass must be Palin's web site.
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The Christian right still recites the Nicene creed
I'll bet you they dont recite the anathema clause on the earliest preserved Nicaean "Creed" against the words of Arius. And that most of them are oblivious to the (catch) 22 sub-agreements appended to the so-called creed about the workings of the Nicaean church. Truman had it right when he said that "There is nothing new under the sun except the history you do not know".
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