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Old 11-30-2004, 02:45 PM   #1
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Default Is a human soul a god?

God is immaterial.
God is omnipresent
God exists eternally
God is omni-omni
Does a god necessarily have to have all of these properties?

When I die, my soul will be immaterial. Humans and human souls may sense my omni-presence. I will exist eternally. Does the Bible preclude my omni-characteristics, or could I also be omni-omni? Perhaps I could be omni-omni, but by nature I choose to not exercise my omni-traits? Perhaps I could be lessor than the Christian god. What is the difference between my soul and a god? What is a god, not necessarily the God?
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Hey B.B.B.,

I'm not sure how to answer your questions adequately. And I'm not entirely sure what you're looking for.

But I'll give it the college try.

First of all, I looked up both "God" and "god" in the dictionary. Here they are:

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god n.

God

1. A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions.
2. The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.
3. A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality.
4. An image of a supernatural being; an idol.
5. One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed: Money was their god.
6. A very handsome man.
7. A powerful ruler or despot.
It's wierd. They've got the definitions for both "god" and "God" intertwined.

Check out #1, for instance. It seems like #1 describes the Christian god, or the Muslim God, both normally spelled "God." It seems to describe the deity that rules all the universe.

But then, theres #6, which is like, "That Justin Timberlake is a god. He's so dreamy." It's normally spelled "god" with a lower case "g."

Here's some more definitions from Webster's Dictionary. It does the same thing:

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god

n 1: the supernatural being conceived as the perfect and omnipotent and omniscient originator and ruler of the universe; the object of worship in monotheistic religions [syn: God, Supreme Being] 2: any supernatural being worshipped as controlling some part of the world or some aspect of life or who is the personification of a force [syn: deity, divinity, immortal] 3: a man of such superior qualities that he seems like a deity to other people; "he was a god among men" 4: a material effigy that is worshipped as a god; "thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image"; "money was his god" [syn: idol, graven image]
So, in keeping with the dictionary definition, a god seems to be a supernatural being who controls aspects of our physical reality. I think you suggested that your soul will have the capabilities to do such things. I think the difference between being a "god," as you described, and being "The God," has to do with the amount of control over the physical world.

If you can manipulate portions of reality after you die, then by the dictionary definition, you could be considered a "god." If you have complete and total dominion over all the physical world, then you could consider yourself The God.

I think that's the main difference. I hope this helps you out.

Oh yeah, one more thing: if you die before me, and if you really can manipulate my reality, then come to the gym one night and lift me up by my feet when I'm driving in for a lay up, so's I can slam it home one time.

I'd just love to see the looks on all their faces, if only it's just for a night.

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So, in keeping with the dictionary definition, a god seems to be a supernatural being who controls aspects of our physical reality. I think you suggested that your soul will have the capabilities to do such things. I think the difference between being a "god," as you described, and being "The God," has to do with the amount of control over the physical world.
What aspects of our physical reality does God control? However you answer that, how do you differentiate that aspect of control from any control a soul or another god has? For example, if God manipulates the wind, how can you be sure it is God as compared to a soul?

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If you can manipulate portions of reality after you die, then by the dictionary definition, you could be considered a "god." If you have complete and total dominion over all the physical world, then you could consider yourself The God.
So after I die, what if I can manipulate physical reality, but I choose not to? Would I still be considered a god? If I could be considered a god, wouldn't that rule out the possibility of your god being the only god?

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Oh yeah, one more thing: if you die before me, and if you really can manipulate my reality, then come to the gym one night and lift me up by my feet when I'm driving in for a lay up, so's I can slam it home one time.
Ye of so little faith. With faith smaller than a mustard seed you can slam dunk anytime you want right? Why wait for my death? Just say a prayer tonight, have a little faith, and that ought to take care of it.

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Ye of so little faith would be just as surprised.
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Just trying to answer your question, bro.

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From what I can tell gods are pretend for grown-ups. Since they're all made up anyway, apparently, they can have a wide range of make-believe characteristics. Whatever you want to believe in fact!

But if you are asking what different theists believe, or what academics know about what historical theists believed, that is probably a different question.
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From what I can tell gods are pretend for grown-ups. Since they're all made up anyway, apparently, they can have a wide range of make-believe characteristics. Whatever you want to believe in fact!

But if you are asking what different theists believe, or what academics know about what historical theists believed, that is probably a different question.
Well, I just hadn't thought about it before. It seems to me that if you ask what a soul "is" and you ask what a god "is," you get almost an identical answer. Kinglouie tells us the difference is what you do. Well, what does God do? What does a soul do? As far as anyone can tell, you can only tell by definition. What did God do before he created the world? I can't tell that God does anything. I have a soul. My soul does manipulate physical reality through my body. Is my soul the real God and God merely a soul? If I mix in your pretend definition, it really gets interesting!
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Just trying to answer your question, bro.
Unfortunately, you never get off with one question. You answered with what is the dictionary definition. That's not what I want. What "is" a god? What "is" a soul? Outside of the dictionary definition, how do you tell the difference between the two?
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