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Old 12-06-2005, 03:38 PM   #1
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I realize that the following problem is difficult to deal with, and if you can't answer it, that's OK.
On the off chance that you missed it, I'm repeating it for your benefit.
God is the universe
The universe is God

Why say God?
Why not just say universe?

The concept "universe" defines a material thing
God defines an intellint being; including material and intelligence

The universe is a being, God
God is everything; Known and unknown to man
God is God

Good exists and evil exists in the universe
Good and evil exist on earth in the universe

There is no contradiction

Good people exists in the universe
Evil people exists in the universe

There is no contradiction

God is Good and Evil

There is no contradiction

What a man calls good and what a man calls evil

Is not good and is not evil to God

Suffering is natural - suffering is not evil
Dying is natural - dying is not evil

Man goes by evidence; not by truth
Man cannot go by truth for man does not have all the evidence

God is everything
God holds all the evidence
God holds all the truth

In recognition that man does not posses all the evidence
Believe becomes the truth; yet believe is not the truth

There is no contradiction

God is everything
God is God
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Old 12-06-2005, 03:58 PM   #2
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I understand you 911,

Up is down, white is black, water is dirt. Everything is true and every thing is false and it's all god and it's all not god.

Well, I'm certainly glad you've cleared that up.
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Old 12-06-2005, 07:23 PM   #3
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I understand you 911,
Up is down, white is black, water is dirt. Everything is true and every thing is false and it's all god and it's all not god.
Well, I'm certainly glad you've cleared that up.
At any one time man sees a little

Is what man sees true? Yes

Is what man sees not true? Yes, man sees but a little

What man sees is true if man believes it is true

Man after all can never see everything

Man must believe what he sees is true

What man sees is not true, for man sees but a little

If man believes what he sees is not true, it is not

What man believes is true; his believe will not waver

If you doubt what you believe; it is not true

When you believe what is true;

By your belief you will know

Abandon what you chose to believe if you doubt what you yourself choose to believe

If you believe good and evil cannot reside in one place

Good and evil can

Look at earth; good and evil resides on earth

Is earth good and is earth evil?

Believe it and it that is true

Believe not and it is not

By your belief is the truth; you know but a little; you see but a little

God is everything
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:34 PM   #4
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"If they can believe that their god can make the sun stand still when it isn't even moving". There's just something about humor like that which is almost poetic in nature. You have a wondrous way with words, John.
If man says he knows everything there is still a question of the interpretation; the opinion

What man believes is true for man cannot know all

What man believes is not true for man believed based on limited evidence

God knows all

God is everything
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I am endowed with the gift of prophecy. I predict, formally, that this thread will also be sent ~Elsewhere.

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Old 12-06-2005, 09:04 PM   #6
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God is the universe
The universe is God
Huh?

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Why say God?
Why not just say universe?

The concept "universe" defines a material thing
God defines an intellint being; including material and intelligence
Err... So... "universe" is in god?

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The universe is a being, God
God is everything; Known and unknown to man
God is God
Universe is a being??

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Originally Posted by 911
Good exists and evil exists in the universe
Good and evil exist on earth in the universe

There is no contradiction
Sure... No contradiction, just one big confusion.

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Good people exists in the universe
Evil people exists in the universe

There is no contradiction
Err... I think there is conflict. God is conflict?

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God is Good and Evil
God is ambiguous?

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There is no contradiction
Yes, is contradiction + confusion. :down:

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What a man calls good and what a man calls evil
:huh:

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Is not good and is not evil to God
Ya... God is ambiguous... :down:

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Suffering is natural - suffering is not evil
Dying is natural - dying is not evil
Who said suffering and dying is evil?

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Man goes by evidence; not by truth
Man cannot go by truth for man does not have all the evidence
:huh:

Evidence is not truth?

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God is everything
God holds all the evidence
God holds all the truth
God holds? So, we living in a big organism! Matrix?

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In recognition that man does not posses all the evidence
Believe becomes the truth; yet believe is not the truth
Err... I guess, for you, to drive a car, you need to be a rocket scientist?

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There is no contradiction
Thanks for clear it up. Is contradiction + confusion.

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God is everything
God is God
Ya, ya, ya... Whatever... Poo is something, something is part of everything, therefore god is poo...
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:06 PM   #7
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I am endowed with the gift of prophecy. I predict, formally, that this thread will also be sent ~Elsewhere.

Eldarion Lathria
Yes... The prophecy will be fulfilled! All hail to Prophet Eldarion Lathria!
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:12 PM   #8
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God is poo seems a problem for you
God is poo is not a problem for God
When you seek the truth
You might not like what you seek until it is revealed to you

When you use logic to come to God - you come to a god based on your logic

When you come to God based on the believe God does not exist

Indeed you come to a god that does not exist

Come to God anyway you want

Discard what you do not believe

What you believe is the truth
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God is poo seems a problem for you
God is poo is not a problem for God
Nope... I have no problem with god is poo. I am telling you that god is poo. Is it a problem for you?

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When you seek the truth
You might not like what you seek until it is revealed to you
Truth? :huh:

Man can find the truth? Is it eatable? If it taste bad, then most likely I won't like it.

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When you use logic to come to God - you come to a god based on your logic
God is logic?

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When you come to God based on the believe God does not exist

Indeed you come to a god that does not exist

Come to God anyway you want
Ah... Not believing god is also believing god?

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Discard what you do not believe
Ah... Not believing is also believing?

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What you believe is the truth
Not believing is also believing, thus not believing is also the truth?
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:11 AM   #10
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Nope... I have no problem with god is poo. I am telling you that god is poo. Is it a problem for you?
Truth? :huh:
Man can find the truth? Is it eatable? If it taste bad, then most likely I won't like it.
God is logic?
Ah... Not believing god is also believing god?
Ah... Not believing is also believing?
Not believing is also believing, thus not believing is also the truth?
You have to come to a conclusion based on the evidence
Even though your evidence is limited

Your conclusion is for you the truth

Nobody can blame you for concluding that it is the truth unless new evidence is presented to you

Your conclusions must necessarily be untrue becuase you arrived at the conclusion without all the evidence

God is in you

Your believe - rather than your conclusions based on what you see... the evidence - is what you must trust

Just as the "untrue" conclusion you deduced from the limited evidence is for you truth; for now.

If you are comfortable with what you believe; it is truth for now.

If you doubt what you believe is not true; believe something else.

I now tell you God is everything

I tell you because it was revealed to me.

Do not believe if you choose not to believe

Trust your believe for God is in you
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