sweep

If jmebob and light were alone together on an island, or casually on a public bus, I wonder if they would still be having this dicussion?

*squawk!- pieces of eight. pretty polly!* *shrug*

save (y) our souls (strangers: portishead)

Ohh........
Can anybody see the light
Where the morn meets the dew and the tide rises
Did you realise, no one can see inside your view
Did you realise, forwhy this sight belongs to you

Ohh........
Just set aside your fears of life
Thru this sole desire

Done it warning
Done it now
This ain't real
On in this side

Done it warning
Done it now
This ain't real
On in this side

(INSTRUMENTAL)

Done it warning
Done it now
This ain't real

Done it waring
Done it now
This ain't real
On in this side

Ohh............
Can anybody see the light
Were the morn meets the dew and the tide rises
Did you realise, no one can ever see inside you view
Did you realise, forewhy this sight belongs to you

Light

In REply to Jmebob

Insults? I thought you enlightened people didn't go in for that sort of thing.

You think that "fucking" is not an insult then?

Right you've given me lots of anti-'s to deal with so I'll pick some of the juicier ones.

I think that killing people is wrong, unless that person is directly and purposefully threatening my life.

That is what the Police are for. Which is why you need discipline within the population and REspect for Human life, and ALL that god has Created.

I don't have a problem with prostitution, as long as it is the choice of the person to do it. That they have other choices and are not being forced in anyway.

Many women ARE forced into prostitution in OTHER parts of this world which we ALL live on. YOU think that it is alright to encourage crimes associated with prostitution you are telling me, as long as it does not affect YOU personally. Supporting an extensive criminal culture costs lives and uses up resources. When they run out you WILL be affected too, unless we can rid the planet of crime, terrorism, decadence, etc. and provide renewable resources.

I think they just got some bad press, that they are actually really nice.

What are they actively doing to prevent all of these abuses?

I don't agree with this one, as long as they are consenting adults there's no problem. Just coz you have a problem with sex. I'll downloading some now.

You continue to demonstrate your uncaring, decadent and immoral attitudes to life.

I don't think people should smoke in public or around children but that's it.

Smoking related diseases, cause many people to be hospitalised at an early age, premature DEATH and tie up all manner of REsources at a great cost to EVERY nation where tobacco is sold. That it produces "revenue" for the state is immaterial as the suffering it causes FAR outweigh any "benefits" only incurred by those who produce tobacco related products. Good planetary government would eradicate tobacco if it REally cared for people and their health. As it is it seems that tobacco is being used to do harm and provide yet another "religious" "tempation".

Yes lets get rid of drugs, no more chemotherapy, painkillers nothing.

These are medicinal. I am referring to narcotics and you are being deliberately evasive. Avoiding the REAL issues.

You seem to have just cobbled together that post it's not clear what you are getting at.

YOU must be blind to all of these crime-related problems it seems to me, as well as to the laissez-faire decadence, mobsters, gangsters and general levels of crime and criminality.

Obviously you do not know how crime occurs OR what to do to prevent it from occurring.

Your evasive replies are of no further interest to me, so you may refrain from responding.

Like so many others, you are just wasting everyone's time here.

People like you are just pretending to be do-gooders, the "religious" also "legalise" tempatation, evil, and satanic practises and call it religion, and call these evil devils and evil satans "disciples".

I am just stuck in the middle of all of this nonsense.

Light

To sweep.

And if you were ALL-Knowing and ALL-Seeing, how would YOU organise this planet to prevent ALL of these abuses from happening and pass on that knowledge to other people?

Is this what these priests and rabbis do? Le "rouge" et le "noir".

Rumplestiltskin

So step one, imagine there's somebody there, step two love that somebody and then step three feel the love flowing back?

I think people here cut out the middleman, and love themselves, because they actually can. Which is exactly why we don't need a middleman. That middleman only gets in the way of having a fruitfull relationship with others who don't share your beliefs.

variant 13

It's fun.
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I called you no such thing, I used the word fuck because I don't see anything wrong with it.

Yes but if they are not there to protect me and a person is going to kill me I have the right to defend myself.

Not all prostitutes are forced or associated with crimanals (what they do is criminalised, but that doesn't make it wrong. The ones that are forced should be helped, I'm not ignoring anything.

By your standards and ideals, you mentioned puritan, being naked isn't wrong, sex isn't wrong enjoying both isn't wrong.

Yes, I'm sorry. You are talking about illegal drug (narcotics can be used medicinally), now the funny thing is alcohol is illegal in places and cannabis is legal. It's a matter of perspective, in Amsterdam cannabis is legal and the effects seem good some far. With cannabis use down and heroin use also falling, so in some cases drugs aren't bad.

I'm having fun so I'll keep it up if that's ok.

Light

So how do people learn about God in that case?

Try step four. Finding out by yourself.

Light

Originally posted by Jmebob
I called you no such thing, I used the word **** because I don't see anything wrong with it.

So those who do somethong wrong with the inability of people to express themselves properly are "wrong", ill-mannered and unintelligent, in your opinion, are they?

Yes but if they are not there to protect me, and a person is going to kill me I have the right to defend myself.

Everyone has the RIGHT to self defense if they are not criminals, or terrorists, evil, wicked, or deliberately satanic as part of a game.

Not all prostitutes are forced or associated with crimanals (what they do is criminalised, but that doesn't make it wrong. The ones that are forced should be helped, I'm not ignoring anything.

The very fact that "legalised" prostitution IS "allowed" in some countries means that, in other countries it is also tolerated. Criminals benefit from this decadent tolerance and people, including children suffer as a direct result. The general law-abiding public also suffer. Countries where prostitution is NOT allowed suffer directly or indirectly as they also inhabit the SAME planet.

By your standards and ideals, you mentioned puritan, being naked isn't wrong, sex isn't wrong enjoying both isn't wrong.

In private between two REAL lovers of complimentary (OPPOSITE) gender.

Yes, I'm sorry. You are talking about illegal drugs (narcotics can be used medicinally), now the funny thing is alcohol is illegal in places and cannabis is legal. It's a matter of perspective, in Amsterdam cannabis is legal and the effects seem good so far, with cannabis use down and heroin use also falling, so in some cases drugs aren't bad.

As a general principle drink and drug abuse IS wrong, so is evil and other nonsense which is just time-wasting and totally uninstructive.

I'm having fun so I'll keep it up if that's ok.

Whilst YOU are "having fun" people are being abused, starving, or killing each other in a general atmosphere of criminal indiscipline. Plus ALL of the other ills which afflict human society all over this planet.

variant 13

I'm quite verbose actually, I just find certain words more expressive.

Ok, there's nothing wrong with with sex between more than two people, gay sex is not wrong (though not my thing). It's not against the nature because it occurs in nature. I think you're letting the chruches teachings influence you.

ACtually on general principle drugs are fine, it's is just their abuse (overuse) is damaging (Ok tobacco damages in any quantity but I'm talking more than physical damage). Evil? (always a bad word to use). Relaxation is a good thing and makes SCIENTIFIC sense.

Same is true while you are preaching here, nothing you have done here will change anything, I'm the only person, it seems, that is willing to engage your posts. The rest just ignore you, I think gratitute is in order.

sweep

dear light:

I propose:

1- alterations to the human constitution. In particular, replacing the stomach and intestine as a means to stay alive. No industry would exist in its current form, since people would not have to work to obtain food. (given the damage to our already finely tuned ecosystem, the poisoning of our food sources, and the extinction of various lifeforms, life may no longer be feasible unless something is done soon.)

2- alterations to brain chemistry, particularly of the human male.

3- more temperate climates globally, thus eliminating the need for a monopoly on clothing.

*will review your list and check to see if I have covered all of those things you deem unsavoury. while others may object, I'm sure there are plenty of other worlds suitable for their wants and wishes*

will you elaborate here please?

sweep

drugs cause stress, destroy bodily energy, and lower quality of neurochemical existence. If you think that drugs will help you, then you are sorely mistaken.