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Old 12-13-2007, 06:55 PM   #61
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There is a passage in Antiquities of the Jews 20.9 where it appears that the sanhedrin could order execution by stoning but they seem to need permission from the procurators.

AJ 20.9,"......so he (Ananus the high priest) assembled the sanhedrin of judges, and brought them before the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James, and some others, or some of his companions; and when he had formed an accusation against them as breakers of the law, he delivered them to be stoned........some them went also to meet Albinus......and informed him that it was not lawful for Ananus to assemble a sanhedrin without his consent...."
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This is turning into a pointless derailment. Please pay attention.

The question is whether the Sanhedrin could have executed a wandering Galilean preacher - that is, historically, whether they had the power to execute someone - anyone.

The OP assumes that Jesus existed for the purposes of this thread.

It's not about Jesus, it's about the Sanhedrin.
OK Sanhedrin.

What historical facts of the Sanhedrin (read Supreme Court) exist regarding the sentencing anyone to death by execution?
The mishnah supplies information about the character and formation of the Bet Din (the court wing of the sanhedrin). You can learn about the processes involved in Misha Sanhedrin. That gives some background to procedures with capital cases.


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Yes and no. No, because your question contains an assumption that you can't demonstrate:


You don't know anything about your "also". And with your reference to unicorns, you are confusing categories of knowledge, for you rule out the unicorn because of scientific knowledge. How do you rule out the existence of Jesus a priori??
But what really is the difference between a claim that a unicorn existed 2000 years ago and that Jesus existed at the same time? It would appear that there is no scientific knowledge of unicorns since they are deemed to be of no known existence, in contrast to becoming extinct, in which case there may be some scientific knowledge of them.
A unicorn is a post-biblical fabulous animal. It was the word used by the KJV for the Hebrew R)M (best understood as a species of wild mountain goat). The vulgate translates the same word as rhinocerotis, though unicorn is a later coined Latin term. Science excludes the sort of mix and match definition of the unicorn, goat's beard, lion's tail, etc.

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The main factors in assigning a unicorn as a myth, is because there has never been a physical sighting or a credible report of its presence. I think those conditions have been met for Jesus.
I didn't talk about myth. (I'm not even sure of the content you place in the word, though it doesn't seem to reflect my understanding.) There's no reason to think that the R)M didn't exist. It is used in the text for its characteristics, so the listener could recognize the reference.


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The main factors in assigning a unicorn as a myth, is because there has never been a physical sighting or a credible report of its presence. I think those conditions have been met for Jesus.
Did it ever cross ur mind unicorn=rhinoceros (one horn for crying out loud it's not rocket science)?? Could the Sanhedrin execute Jesus? There is nothing I know that says Jesus could have been executed by a crucifixion for blasphemy.
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OK Sanhedrin.

What historical facts of the Sanhedrin (read Supreme Court) exist regarding the sentencing anyone to death by execution?
The mishnah supplies information about the character and formation of the Bet Din (the court wing of the sanhedrin). You can learn about the processes involved in Misha Sanhedrin. That gives some background to procedures with capital cases.


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I know that the Sanhedrin COULD sentence someone to death.

My question was not clear.

What are the number and frequency of Sanhedrin decided executions in that period?

There are U.S. states that allow executions but do not execute.

QM?
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... I know that the Sanhedrin COULD sentence someone to death.

My question was not clear.

What are the number and frequency of Sanhedrin decided executions in that period?

There are U.S. states that allow executions but do not execute.

QM?
The OP asks the question if the Sanhedrin could in fact sentence anyone to death around the time that Jesus is supposed to have died. If you think you know this, your job here is finished.

Like many US states, the Sanhedrin had the power to sentence people to death (at least at some time in history) but rarely used it, death being a rather messy thing.
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The main factors in assigning a unicorn as a myth, is because there has never been a physical sighting or a credible report of its presence. I think those conditions have been met for Jesus.
Did it ever cross ur mind unicorn=rhinoceros (one horn for crying out loud it's not rocket science)??
As I pointed out earlier, the Hebrew word R)M has nothing to do with unicorns or rhinoceroses. Connecting it to the Akkadian word ramu philologists relate the word to a wild mountain goat.

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Could the Sanhedrin execute Jesus? There is nothing I know that says Jesus could have been executed by a crucifixion for blasphemy.
As we saw with the death of James, the sanhedrin could execute people, though it was as seems by a traditional form of execution, stoning. There was a Roman reaction to this event, as the execution didn't get Roman approval. It seems that the sanhedrin could arrange for the execution of someone, though it had to be with Roman approval, which might dictate Roman choice of execution. (We must also remember that two prominent Jews in the past crucified people, Alexander Jannaeus and Shimeon ben Shetah.)


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