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Old 09-22-2012, 04:24 PM   #11
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harvard theological journal postpones publication of king's article?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-w...-jesus-s-wife/
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alin's first formal declaration on the document - it "might" be a forgery http://alinsuciu.com/2012/09/26/on-t...nd-alin-suciu/
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Alin notices more anomalies in the grammar of the Jesus wife fragment:

http://alinsuciu.com/2012/09/27/alin...s-wife-line-6/
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:12 PM   #14
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Hi stephan huller,

It must to really nice to be able to tell how every writer from the Second through the Fourth centuries wrote coptic. If we didn't know how every writer wrote, it would be impossible to tell if a modern forger made a mistake or an ancient writer made a mistake. It is nice to know that the coptics preserved the writings of every single one of their writers.

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Yes Jay. I don't whether this comes from some mental difficulties of my own, lack of faith etc. but I always have a problem with the kind of people who say A 'has to =' B. Maybe one outcome is more likely than the other but we live in a world we know so little about. I am not sure that using what Mommy and Daddy believed, held as sacred, were forced to believe etc. should be employed as the key to unlock all the secrets of the universe.
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Timo Paananen's refutation of Francis Watson's methodology:

http://blue.butler.edu/~jfmcgrat/GJW...20Paananen.pdf
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Vatican declares the fragment to be a 'fake':

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0...ake/?hpt=hp_t3
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Vatican declares the fragment to be a 'fake':

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/0...ake/?hpt=hp_t3
ya that made me laugh this morning.
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This is a good critique. Watson (on GJW) and Carlson (on Letter to Theodore) have very similar styles. If something rubs you the wrong way (a married Jesus for Watson and the Vatican, and a homoerotic interpretation of an otherwise unknown gospel fragment for Carlson, even though it was the interpretation of Carpocratian gnostics and not Clement's own interpretation), you simply go looking for "clues" to unmask what HAS TO BE a "clumsy" or "crafty" forgery.

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and as they say, even a broken clock gets it right twice a day
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