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Toto · 11-26-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey Gibson

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So you say.

Is that all you can come up with?

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Only a true believing Christian with blinders on would say this.
Anyone else would wonder why the lord of lords made such a faint impression on the rest of the world. Most reasonable scholars seem to assume that Jesus was a marginal, small town rabbi in an obscure area of the Roman Empire.

Whoa! All Kee is speaking of here is Jesus as an exorcist -- which even Jewish sources testify to. Where does he say anything about Jesus being lord of lords. Nice of you to make your point by putting words in Kee's mouth.

In any case, that Jesus had "unusal powers" -- i.e., was a healer -- is something that Jewish and atheists scholars have also said.

Jeffrey

That can't be - exorcists and faith healers were a dime a dozen in the Roman Empire. Kee thinks that Jesus had "unusual powers."

And what Jewish sources?

Toto · 11-26-2007, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by burning flames

the reason I bring him up is because of these 2 interesting links, recommended to me by someone on this forum...

http://www.rationalrevolution.net/ar...th_history.htm

http://www.rationalrevolution.net/ar...ospel_mark.htm

OH NOES!! THIS ENTIRE THREAD MISSED THE WHOLE POINT SCRATCH EVERYTHING.

Those links were written by R.G. Price, who posts here as Malachi151.

R.G.Price is NOT Robert M. Price.

Sorry.

burning flames · 11-26-2007, 07:44 PM

wait wait, I am also wondering about R.M. Price.

I didnt look carefully. I have come accross Robert M Price's work (the bible geek) and I was wondering about him as well. But now that we are on the subject, how is Malachi15's scholarship? LOL

Spanky · 11-26-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Roger Pearse

He's a fringe scholar.

Solitary Man · 11-26-2007, 08:25 PM

R. G. Price is not even a fringe scholar. He's not even a scholar at all. He has no scholarly background. For crying out loud a mere year ago (if even that long ago) he finally found out that Psalm 22 was quoted in the gospels!

Toto · 11-27-2007, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey Gibson

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You might want to have a look at what is said about Price's scholarship in the recently published The Jesus Legend (or via: amazon.co.uk) by P.R. Eddy and G.A. Boyd -- of which Price himself has said "I am gratified that my friends and colleagues Paul Eddy and Greg Boyd have taken my work as seriously as they have in this comprehensively researched work [which, BTW, also reviews Earl's writings]. I urge any reader of my books to read this one alongside them".

Jeffrey

I have located the previous thread on this book here.

It was my feeling then (and now) that if the authors start out by arguing for the possibility of miracles, that their entire theory is somewhat discredited.

Why should this book be taken seriously? And what value is a scholarly consensus among NT scholars if it includes people with this sort of methodological weirdness?

Solitary Man · 11-27-2007, 01:06 AM

It seems to me that they're different books.

Toto · 11-27-2007, 01:07 AM

There are two books by the same authors.

Solitary Man · 11-27-2007, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Toto

There are two books by the same authors.

Yes. When Jeffrey pointed out The Jesus Legend, you pointed out a thread "on this book", which actually was on a different book.

Toto · 11-27-2007, 01:57 AM

Check out the thread - I think it mentions both and links to the first chapter of the one under discussion.

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11-26-2007, 07:44 PM	#73
burning flames Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: florida Posts: 887	wait wait, I am also wondering about R.M. Price. I didnt look carefully. I have come accross Robert M Price's work (the bible geek) and I was wondering about him as well. But now that we are on the subject, how is Malachi15's scholarship? LOL

11-26-2007, 08:25 PM	#75
Solitary Man Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: ירושלים Posts: 1,701	R. G. Price is not even a fringe scholar. He's not even a scholar at all. He has no scholarly background. For crying out loud a mere year ago (if even that long ago) he finally found out that Psalm 22 was quoted in the gospels!

11-27-2007, 01:06 AM	#77
Solitary Man Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: ירושלים Posts: 1,701	It seems to me that they're different books.

11-27-2007, 01:07 AM	#78
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	There are two books by the same authors.

11-27-2007, 01:57 AM	#80
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Check out the thread - I think it mentions both and links to the first chapter of the one under discussion.

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