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Toto · 03-23-2010, 07:53 PM

Glory Be: Dallas to house a National Bible Museum

Since it's Texas, it will be the size of 10 football fields.

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I have been told by sources here that the amount of money Carroll and Shipman are spending for this collection is more in the neighborhood of $300 million.

They are buying things like the Codex Climaci Rescriptus, an Old and New Testament translation probably produced in Jerusalem in the early 6th Century, written in Palestinian Aramaic, Greek and Syriak. I was told it is "a very serious book."

Carroll is the one vetting the acquisitions. Shipman, son of a Cleburne pastor, is accompanying Carroll on this international buying spree as some sort of agent.

Carroll has credible credentials. In the past he has been a curator of the Van Kampen collection in Michigan, a renowned archive of early Jewish and Christian manuscripts. ...

From another blog

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... Scott Carroll, a history professor at the interdenominational Cornerstone University in Grand Rapids, Mich., and Don Shipman, the son of a Cleburne pastor, have been busily buying up millions and millions of dollars’ worth of rare Bibles and manuscripts for a planned museum in Dallas — not to mention acquiring some 22 acres in downtown Dallas.

older story on Cornerstone's website

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“There will be 20 halls, each half the size of a football field,” said Carroll. Each hall will contain artifacts and illustrations of the preservation of the Bible during a different period of history. Carroll said a donor is willing to build exact replicas of as many ancient monuments as the museum wants.

Once the project really gets going, Carroll expects to have over 200 staff members in order to run it properly. He also hopes to have at least 15 faculty members with Ph.D.s to give the museum authority. The goal of this museum is to become “the Smithsonian of biblical antiquities,” he said.

Carroll said that he wants the museum to be a place where the media can go to get an authoritative Christian answer if there are questions concerning the Bible or a new discovery.

Dallas was selected as the location because of the demographics. “Dallas has more Christians than anywhere else in the world,” Carroll said, “and more Christian wealth.”

The NBM has a Facebook page, where Johnny Shipman has posted various gems:

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We have purchased the oldest BIble in America and 5th oldest in the world for the NBM. It is called Codex Climacci Resriptus. Google it. It is the only known copy of early Aramaic New testament which Jesus spoke! too cool!

We have closed on 150 Torah Scrolls for the Musuem this month. They are awesome and will be a great display. Have purchased several other collections of Bibles and Judaica. Things are building and we meet to try to close a contract on the building January 5-6. Pray!

Back to Dallas from a trip to London to buy 4 Bibles as the winning bidder of really cool old Bibles that will be displayed in the Museum. Then off to Turkey and ISrael to buy other cool things for the Museum. We acquired 4 Dead Sea Scroll Fragments. Will try to buy over 1,000 this coming month. Goign back to London to try to buy the 5th oldest BIble in the World. Pray for me.
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The National Bible Museum just acquired some new Torah Scrolls that are between 200-800 years old each!

Mark 10:17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?

Did Jesus say - build up your wealth until it is huge even for Texas, then hire some smart guys to go around and buy up old Bibles and Jewish scrolls and set up a Bible theme park, and make a Facebook page to appeal to hip younger kids?

Note: The Van Campen Collection "affirms God's careful preservation of His Word and inspires a renewed appreciation for the Holy Scriptures."

mountainman · 03-23-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Toto

Mark 10:17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?

Did Jesus say - build up your wealth until it is huge even for Texas, then hire some smart guys to go around and buy up old Bibles and Jewish scrolls and set up a Bible theme park, and make a Facebook page to appeal to hip younger kids?

No, but this does sound very much like the Vatican Tourist industry as established by Pontifex Maximus Damasius after the death of Emperor Julian c.365 - 375 CE . The theme developed on that occassion was Peter died here in Rome. Planning a pilgrimage? No need to go to any other Holy Land - just visit our newly renovated catacombs, vaults and grottos, and see with your own eyes the various bones and sarcophagi of various dead saints, popes, apostles, martyrs and bishops. Where will it all end?

Toto · 03-24-2010, 03:15 PM

Hmm... the first link has accumulated some interesting comments, but the facebook page is suddenly pristine. :constern01:

I was wondering where this group was going to find 1,000 fragments of the DSS to buy, and what they would do with them.

Toto · 04-06-2010, 12:50 AM

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Leaders of the Oklahoma-owned Hobby Lobby retail chain have acquired hundreds of Bible artifacts and are helping to open a museum.

Steve Green, president of Hobby Lobby, said Wednesday his family has been helping to develop the National Bible Museum. He said he and museum leaders are evaluating several sites, including Dallas.

Hobby Lobby is the source for some major funding for religious right projects, including Jerry Falwell's Liberty University and Oral Roberts University.

gdeering · 04-06-2010, 06:51 AM

Finally the religious rich will have some where to cast their non-profit donation money. Helping the poor was getting them no where.

I'd be very surprised if the scale of the plan was not Tower of Bable hyperbole.
200 employees? I wonder what they'd have to raise every year to support that? I'd also love to be the Dallas AC dealer that gets the climate control job.

In addition, as far as potential attractions, I've seen a lot of old bibles, but if they were able to get a hold of that talking cross I'm going to plan a visit.

Gregg

Vampyroteuthis · 04-06-2010, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Toto

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Leaders of the Oklahoma-owned Hobby Lobby retail chain have acquired hundreds of Bible artifacts and are helping to open a museum.

Steve Green, president of Hobby Lobby, said Wednesday his family has been helping to develop the National Bible Museum. He said he and museum leaders are evaluating several sites, including Dallas.

Hobby Lobby is the source for some major funding for religious right projects, including Jerry Falwell's Liberty University and Oral Roberts University.

Is that great how they live how live off the backs of the poor in india and china to finance their bullshit?

Never going there again.

storytime · 04-07-2010, 01:02 PM

Sounds like a spin-off of American Pickers.

Toto · 04-01-2011, 11:30 AM

Update: New museum to use science to tell Bible's history

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A new multimillion-dollar, high-tech, interactive museum of the Bible was announced Thursday amid 130 artifacts of the Good Book in a private exhibition at the Vatican Embassy.

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<snip google ads for online theology degrees, dial for men and cocaine treatment??? What algorithm linked those??>

The exhibit was a sampler of Jewish, Roman Catholic and Protestant treasures from the future museum's 10,000 manuscripts and texts, one of the world's largest biblical collections.

Some were as old as pages of the gospel in the Aramaic of Jesus' time, as political as the only Bible edition ever authorized by the U.S. Congress, as treasured as first editions of the majestic King James Version (KJV), displayed near the king's own seal.

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While the location and architecture, even the museum's name are still in the works, 300 highlights of the Green Collection will go on tour beginning at the Oklahoma Museum of Art on May 16. The traveling exhibit, called Passages, will move to the Vatican in October and New York City by Christmas.

The announcement was made at the Vatican Embassy to highlight the Catholic contribution to the best-loved English text, the 1611 KJV, which draws about 80% of its majestic language from an earlier translation by a Catholic priest.

Minimalist · 04-01-2011, 12:38 PM

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Carroll said a donor is willing to build exact replicas of as many ancient monuments as the museum wants.

I see an ark in the future.

mountainman · 04-01-2011, 08:23 PM

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Carroll said a donor is willing to build exact replicas of as many ancient monuments as the museum wants.

I see an ark in the future.

I can just make out a monument to the heretics, and particularly the author of the Leucian Acts. Will it have separate wings for the Gospel of Judas and Mary, or will it be a Canonical Museum?

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03-24-2010, 03:15 PM	#3
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Hmm... the first link has accumulated some interesting comments, but the facebook page is suddenly pristine. :constern01: I was wondering where this group was going to find 1,000 fragments of the DSS to buy, and what they would do with them.

04-06-2010, 06:51 AM	#5
gdeering Regular Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 237	Finally the religious rich will have some where to cast their non-profit donation money. Helping the poor was getting them no where. I'd be very surprised if the scale of the plan was not Tower of Bable hyperbole. 200 employees? I wonder what they'd have to raise every year to support that? I'd also love to be the Dallas AC dealer that gets the climate control job. In addition, as far as potential attractions, I've seen a lot of old bibles, but if they were able to get a hold of that talking cross I'm going to plan a visit. Gregg

04-07-2010, 01:02 PM	#7
storytime Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 2,608	Sounds like a spin-off of American Pickers.

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