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Old 04-20-2012, 04:06 PM   #51
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And you still believe the author(s) of the epistles knew all about the gospels or at least GMark, right?
I do NOT speculate. I PRESENT evidence. Examine an apologetic source attributed to Origen.

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.... I have learned by tradition that the Gospel according to Matthew....... was written first...... The second written was that according to Mark....... And third, was that according to Luke, the Gospel commended by Paul......
There are WRITTEN statements of antiquity, not speculation, that Paul was AWARE of gLuke.

This is PRECISELY how one builds a case. Evidence and written statements MUST be SUBMITTED not Chinese Whispers and speculation.

I will now present another Apologetic source who will make a written statement that the Pauline writer followed the rule of his Predecessor John who wrote to seven churches in Revelation.

Examine an excerpt from the Muratorian Canon.

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the blessed apostle Paul himself, following the rule of his predecessor John, writes by name only to seven churches....
I will logically deduce that the Pauline writer was NOT only aware of gLuke but also aware of Revelation by John and wrote his LETTERS AFTER Revelation by the so-called John.

And I will go further, the FIRST apologetic source to Mention Revelation by John, "First Apology" by Justin Martyr, did NOT mention the Pauline letters.

I will logically deduce that the Pauline writer was NOT only aware of gLuke, wrote AFTER Revelation by John but composed his letters AFTER "First Apology" or AFTER the mid 2nd century.

The Pauline writings [P 46] have been dated by Paleography to the mid 2nd-3rd century.

The ACTUAL EXISTING RECOVERED Pauline writings [ P 46] and the written statements of Apologetic sources are Compatible.

The Pauline writer is a fraud whether or not he was a Roman citizen or a Jew.

He lived sometime AFTER the mid 2nd century and his supposed letters were UNKNOWN BEFORE the Fall of the Temple.
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