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David B · 11-26-2005, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by John A. Broussard

Didn't the angels come first?

Human creation, to my way of thinking, indicates a lack of omnipotence on god's part. Sort of unintelligent design.

You miss my point. If god is bound to do intelligent stuff, she doesn't have free will.

And a god without free will is as much use as a wank in a trance.

David B

RUmike · 11-26-2005, 03:06 PM

Probably because the ancient Jews did not believe in the omnipotence of their god and that this was a later development.

Wayne Delia · 11-26-2005, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ApostateAbe

God is too awesome to talk to human beings directly, so he needed middle management.

I seem to remember that was the basis of the plot of the movie "Dogma". Alan Rickman played the Voice of God angel, while Alanis Morrissette played God.

WMD

John A. Broussard · 11-26-2005, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ApostateAbe

God is too awesome to talk to human beings directly,

You've got the bible on your side.

God said he/she couldn't show his/her face to Moses because it was altogether too awesome. That's why she/he showed her/his hind parts to the old man instead.

Evilicious · 11-26-2005, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by John A. Broussard

You've got the bible on your side.

God said he/she couldn't show his/her face to Moses because it was altogether too awesome. That's why she/he showed her/his hind parts to the old man instead.

Would that mean that s/he is a Moon God?

Loomis · 11-26-2005, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RUmike

Probably because the ancient Jews did not believe in the omnipotence of their god and that this was a later development.

Bingo.

And what do you suppose happened at Psalm 8:5?

You made him a little lower than the gods angels and crowned him with glory and honor.

God didn’t create angels. The guys who created God did.

They needed to disguise El’s pantheon.

Orthodox_Freethinker · 11-26-2005, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Scyld

Furthermore, if you're going to claim that he didn't need to, but did anyways, why?

God created angels for the same reason why he created us - Love.

Peace.

Loomis · 11-27-2005, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Orthodox_Freethinker

Love
Peace

Honesty

Joan of Bark · 11-27-2005, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Orthodox_Freethinker

God created angels for the same reason why he created us - Love.

Peace.

I fail to see the connection. Incidentally, did he create the serpent and Satan for the same reason? How about earthquakes and small pox?
:huh:

Clivedurdle · 11-27-2005, 02:24 AM

God is inordinately fond of beetles as well!

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