Orthodox_Freethinker

The name of the Church is the Orthodox Church. It is historically the original Christian Church, not another sect.

Orthodox Eastern Church
http://encyclopedia.com/html/O/Orthodox.asp

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Orthodox_Freethinker

The sins of the flock does not negate the truth of God. However, I agree that it has been enough to drive a lot of otherwise good people people away. It's actually rather shameful the things that have been done.

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Orthodox_Freethinker

Note - I used the word 'generally'. This does not mean we shouldn't allow new evidence to influence our understanding of Scripture. Otherwise, I wouldn't be saying that the Bible isn't infallible.

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Orthodox_Freethinker

The text of Scripture, though divinely inspired, is also influenced by the cultural milieu of the author.

Which is why the understanding of the Orthodox Church on salvation is what matters, given that it is the historical Church.

Faith
Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.

Faith helps our species by granting individuals salvation and a moral purpose to being.

First of all, it's quite obvious that the earth is more than 6,000 years old.

The Bible is correct on that which is necessary for salvation, it is not a science textbook nor was ever intended to be. The Bible is the historical record of God's relationship with humankind and our guide to salvation in His name.

Could you prove to me that Jesus believed Genesis to be literal truth?

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Mageth

You've repeatedly used the term "Orthodoxy". Claiming your sect as "historically the original Christian Church" is just repeating that claim - the claim that your sect is the "orthodox" sect with the "orthodox" beliefs.

You believe what your particular sect believes - that it is "historically the original Christian Church." You support the orthodoxy of your sect, one tenet of which that your sect is the "orthodox" sect that is "historically the original Christian Church".

But it's just one sect among many - all of which claim their own version of orthodoxy.

Orthodox_Freethinker

Look, it seems as if you've never even heard of the Eastern Orthodox Church. Orthodoxy began in 52 A.D., when the Apostles receieved the blessing of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost. It has remained unchanged and uncorrupted from that time. Every other Christian denomination is nothing more than an off-shoot of Orthodoxy. For example, Protestantism has only been around for 500 years and therefore, it cannot be the original Christian Church. Do you understand better now?

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Mageth

Yes, I've heard of the Eastern Orthodox Church.

And here, you're simply regurgitating one of the claims of that sect (its orthodoxy) - the claim that it's the "true" church that dates back to 52 CE, has remained "unchanged and uncorrupted" from that time, and that "every other Christian denomination is nothing more than an off-shoot of Orthodoxy".

Congratulations, you're orthodox within your sect, because you believe, and can regurgitate, its orthodoxy.

Your ability to do that does not impress me, nor do the claims that yours is the true "orthodox" sect that carries "orthodox" beliefs "unchanged and uncorrupted" from the First Century. No more so than the claims of the thousands of other Christian sects that make their own claims to orthodoxy.

Do you understand better now?

You added:

Protestantism claims to have "restored" the Church to the original Christianity, to orthodoxy, in other words.

I'm no more impressed by your claims of "orthodoxy" than by theirs.

Do you understand better now?

Orthodox_Freethinker

Given that they cannot trace themselves to the first century, they are obviously wrong.

Given that Orthodoxy has remained uncorrupted from the beginning of the faith, this claim is false.

This isn't a regurgitation of dogma but historical fact. Christianity was one and undivided until the Great Schism.

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motorhead

Yet, God could still have left out the errors while having the writing follow the cultural milieu. God could've also arranged it so some of the writings weren't done in pieces and then put together by an editor. So much could've been done so easily by your all powerful God, yet it wasn't.



Oh, so are you one of the "my church is the true Christian church and all others are false" people?

So you meant the book of Genesis when you said "bronze age mythology"?

Orthodox_Freethinker

The Bible does not err on matters of theology, theological truth and the essentials of salvation. The Scriptures are not, however, a scientific textbook.

I don't believe that all other Christians are 'false', they just do not belong to the first-century Church.

Exactly.

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