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Pericles · 01-13-2004, 05:20 AM

Have you heard that NZ was a Chinese province for almost 2000 years. The Chinese were finally massacred and eaten by the Maori around 1700 AD and that there are the remains of up to 44 junks wrecked on South Island by a comet strike tsunami in 1422 AD. Some of the junks were up to 150 metres long and wider than 50 metres. They were rigged on nine masts and the sails were raised and lowered using stone spheres that ran on tracks in the holds of the ships.

This would explain why Maori fighting systems with longclub and mere are so similar to Chinese martial arts.

Photos of junks? Absolutely yes. Go to http://www.1421.tv/ and view the evidence. In fact, you should be able to purchase the book in NZ right now. The fighting moves made with the longclub are extremely similar to Shaolin forms with the sabre bladed spear. the Shaolin monastery in North China has its own website. Take a look. I grew up in NZ from 1949 to 1953, when it was still different and the Maoris in Ranana on the Wanganui, lived close to the farm owned by Pop Monk. I still remember the hakas and the use of both mere and longclub in the rituals. There was a saying "Heavy feet-wet skin", meaning if you weren't fast enough, then you would be cut.

I appreciate that the unpalatable facts about NZ being colonised by the Han Chinese, perhaps 1000 years before the canoes arrived from Hawiiki, may cause grief to those who wish to renegotiate the Waitangi treaty, nevertheless the Botanical Gardens in Christchurch are laid out on the ruins of the Chinese city and the sunken garden is situated in the Chinese harbour.

History has a habit of creeping up and suprising people. The site of King Solomon's Temple is Jerusalem, for example, is probably not on Temple Mount {Mount Moriah} but 800 feet further south. Try http://www.askelm.com/temple/t980504.htm and have a look.

Very recently a Roman copper coin was discovered in NZ, but the finder dismissed its validity.It has also been rumoured that vikings got to NZ. Ok, the Danes settled England, the Norwegians settled Iceland, Greenland, the Shetlands, Isle of Man, Ireland and parts of the west coast of Britain. They also settled in Normandy. The Swedes went east and south through Russia to Constantinople, and some entered service with the eastern Emperor as the Varangian Guard. Who knows, one or two may have ended up in China and sailed to NZ. On http://www.biblemysteries.com/index.htm you can read about the possibility that when the Assyrians under Sargon fell on Israel on Israel in 722 b.c. and enslaved the 10 lost tribes, some may have contined journeying east to Japan. Shinto it seems has many similarities with Hebrew ritual.

Yours truly,

Pericles

NZAmoeba · 01-13-2004, 07:03 PM

I have a tinfoil hat to sell you... i'll accept either $10,000 or payment in bridges.

Pericles · 01-14-2004, 03:29 AM

"I have a tinfoil hat to sell you... i'll accept either $10,000 or payment in bridges."

What does that mean? Has anyone a clue as to what NZAmoeba is trying to say. I looked up the words in a dictionary of Anzac phrases, but no luck there.
:banghead:

Babylon Sister · 01-14-2004, 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by Pericles
Have you heard that NZ was a Chinese province for almost 2000 years. The Chinese were finally massacred and eaten by the Maori around 1700 AD and that there are the remains of up to 44 junks wrecked on South Island by a comet strike tsunami in 1422 AD. Some of the junks were up to 150 metres long and wider than 50 metres. They were rigged on nine masts and the sails were raised and lowered using stone spheres that ran on tracks in the holds of the ships.

This would explain why Maori fighting systems with longclub and mere are so similar to Chinese martial arts.

Photos of junks? Absolutely yes. Go to http://www.1421.tv/ and view the evidence. In fact, you should be able to purchase the book in NZ right now. The fighting moves made with the longclub are extremely similar to Shaolin forms with the sabre bladed spear. the Shaolin monastery in North China has its own website. Take a look. I grew up in NZ from 1949 to 1953, when it was still different and the Maoris in Ranana on the Wanganui, lived close to the farm owned by Pop Monk. I still remember the hakas and the use of both mere and longclub in the rituals. There was a saying "Heavy feet-wet skin", meaning if you weren't fast enough, then you would be cut.

I appreciate that the unpalatable facts about NZ being colonised by the Han Chinese, perhaps 1000 years before the canoes arrived from Hawiiki, may cause grief to those who wish to renegotiate the Waitangi treaty, nevertheless the Botanical Gardens in Christchurch are laid out on the ruins of the Chinese city and the sunken garden is situated in the Chinese harbour.

History has a habit of creeping up and suprising people. The site of King Solomon's Temple is Jerusalem, for example, is probably not on Temple Mount {Mount Moriah} but 800 feet further south. Try http://www.askelm.com/temple/t980504.htm and have a look.

Very recently a Roman copper coin was discovered in NZ, but the finder dismissed its validity.It has also been rumoured that vikings got to NZ. Ok, the Danes settled England, the Norwegians settled Iceland, Greenland, the Shetlands, Isle of Man, Ireland and parts of the west coast of Britain. They also settled in Normandy. The Swedes went east and south through Russia to Constantinople, and some entered service with the eastern Emperor as the Varangian Guard. Who knows, one or two may have ended up in China and sailed to NZ. On http://www.biblemysteries.com/index.htm you can read about the possibility that when the Assyrians under Sargon fell on Israel on Israel in 722 b.c. and enslaved the 10 lost tribes, some may have contined journeying east to Japan. Shinto it seems has many similarities with Hebrew ritual.

Yours truly,

Pericles

Go on, pull the other one!

BioBeing · 01-14-2004, 10:03 AM

What does the OP have to do with the title of this thread?

Roland98 · 01-14-2004, 10:09 AM

Another one off to ~E~.

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Light · 01-15-2004, 04:06 PM

And when we eat the body and drink the blood of Christ we curse the stupid church for turning us into cannibalistic vampires and thank all of those scientists who enlightened us as to our pagan belief.

Let us crucify the enlightened so that we may continue with our devils, satans and evil nonsense, remembering to kill the first born and then beg the Lord for forgiveness for our unscientific human sacrifice and for murdering His only Son.

Never mind God decided to resurrect His only Son and get sent of to Elsewhere as it really is a pathetic display of totally confused thinking around here, gathered around a hole, (AKA "The Brain Drain"), throwing stones at imaginary devils scrambling around inside confused minds filled with murderous intentions and satanic belief.

These "religious" people are clinically insane.

Everyone knows there is a God ever since He Created everything.

They are all-knowing too.

keyser_soze · 01-15-2004, 05:49 PM

sockpuppet anyone? Craig, is that you?

Light · 01-16-2004, 10:36 AM

The real question is: Where is all of that evil coming from? Those who hate others and believe in satanic practises rather than science?

Superstitious nonsense breeds evil and then evil begets more evil, whereas Good begets Good.

Stop all of the imaginings of "religious" thinkers and look after people and it ALL gets better.

But then you have to REspect people and then they will REspect you.

A criminal has no REspect for anyone.

So where is the ... LOVE?

01-13-2004, 05:20 AM	#1
Pericles Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: England Posts: 8	Scientific enquiry evaluates- A religion dictates. Have you heard that NZ was a Chinese province for almost 2000 years. The Chinese were finally massacred and eaten by the Maori around 1700 AD and that there are the remains of up to 44 junks wrecked on South Island by a comet strike tsunami in 1422 AD. Some of the junks were up to 150 metres long and wider than 50 metres. They were rigged on nine masts and the sails were raised and lowered using stone spheres that ran on tracks in the holds of the ships. This would explain why Maori fighting systems with longclub and mere are so similar to Chinese martial arts. Photos of junks? Absolutely yes. Go to http://www.1421.tv/ and view the evidence. In fact, you should be able to purchase the book in NZ right now. The fighting moves made with the longclub are extremely similar to Shaolin forms with the sabre bladed spear. the Shaolin monastery in North China has its own website. Take a look. I grew up in NZ from 1949 to 1953, when it was still different and the Maoris in Ranana on the Wanganui, lived close to the farm owned by Pop Monk. I still remember the hakas and the use of both mere and longclub in the rituals. There was a saying "Heavy feet-wet skin", meaning if you weren't fast enough, then you would be cut. I appreciate that the unpalatable facts about NZ being colonised by the Han Chinese, perhaps 1000 years before the canoes arrived from Hawiiki, may cause grief to those who wish to renegotiate the Waitangi treaty, nevertheless the Botanical Gardens in Christchurch are laid out on the ruins of the Chinese city and the sunken garden is situated in the Chinese harbour. History has a habit of creeping up and suprising people. The site of King Solomon's Temple is Jerusalem, for example, is probably not on Temple Mount {Mount Moriah} but 800 feet further south. Try http://www.askelm.com/temple/t980504.htm and have a look. Very recently a Roman copper coin was discovered in NZ, but the finder dismissed its validity.It has also been rumoured that vikings got to NZ. Ok, the Danes settled England, the Norwegians settled Iceland, Greenland, the Shetlands, Isle of Man, Ireland and parts of the west coast of Britain. They also settled in Normandy. The Swedes went east and south through Russia to Constantinople, and some entered service with the eastern Emperor as the Varangian Guard. Who knows, one or two may have ended up in China and sailed to NZ. On http://www.biblemysteries.com/index.htm you can read about the possibility that when the Assyrians under Sargon fell on Israel on Israel in 722 b.c. and enslaved the 10 lost tribes, some may have contined journeying east to Japan. Shinto it seems has many similarities with Hebrew ritual. Yours truly, Pericles

01-15-2004, 04:06 PM	#7
Light Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Here, There & Everywhere Posts: 1,253	Ah yes science! And when we eat the body and drink the blood of Christ we curse the stupid church for turning us into cannibalistic vampires and thank all of those scientists who enlightened us as to our pagan belief. Let us crucify the enlightened so that we may continue with our devils, satans and evil nonsense, remembering to kill the first born and then beg the Lord for forgiveness for our unscientific human sacrifice and for murdering His only Son. Never mind God decided to resurrect His only Son and get sent of to Elsewhere as it really is a pathetic display of totally confused thinking around here, gathered around a hole, (AKA "The Brain Drain"), throwing stones at imaginary devils scrambling around inside confused minds filled with murderous intentions and satanic belief. These "religious" people are clinically insane. Everyone knows there is a God ever since He Created everything. They are all-knowing too.

01-16-2004, 10:36 AM	#9
Light Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Here, There & Everywhere Posts: 1,253	EBEGBG The real question is: Where is all of that evil coming from? Those who hate others and believe in satanic practises rather than science? Superstitious nonsense breeds evil and then evil begets more evil, whereas Good begets Good. Stop all of the imaginings of "religious" thinkers and look after people and it ALL gets better. But then you have to REspect people and then they will REspect you. A criminal has no REspect for anyone. So where is the ... LOVE?

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01-13-2004, 07:03 PM	#2
NZAmoeba Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 478	I have a tinfoil hat to sell you... i'll accept either $10,000 or payment in bridges.

01-14-2004, 03:29 AM	#3
Pericles Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: England Posts: 8	"I have a tinfoil hat to sell you... i'll accept either $10,000 or payment in bridges." What does that mean? Has anyone a clue as to what NZAmoeba is trying to say. I looked up the words in a dictionary of Anzac phrases, but no luck there. :banghead:

01-14-2004, 10:03 AM	#5
BioBeing Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 6,004	What does the OP have to do with the title of this thread?

01-14-2004, 10:09 AM	#6
Roland98 Contributor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Gilead Posts: 11,186	Another one off to ~E~. Roland98 S&S Moderator

01-15-2004, 05:49 PM	#8
keyser_soze Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: god's judge (pariah) Posts: 1,281	sockpuppet anyone? Craig, is that you?

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