Originally Posted by chaoschristian

Zimbardo, the architect of that experiment, plugged his new book, The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil on The Daily Show a few weeks back.

I'm waiting for the library to get it in so I can read it.

What are the rules for linking to vendors like Amazon? I've got the link right here on my clip board.

Originally Posted by chaoschristian

Zimbardo, the architect of that experiment, plugged his new book, The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil on The Daily Show a few weeks back.

I'm waiting for the library to get it in so I can read it.

Originally Posted by ravenscape

I've read similar often enough, had similar said to my face often enough by school personnel, school district personnel, other parents, even family members that I don't take it personally. We're just an example to refute, just kids to marginalize, just parents to condescend to or berate for our lousy parenting skills.

If I took it personally, I'd probably beat someone to a pulp. They're my kids.

Originally Posted by LoneStar

I wouldn't blame you if you'd wanted to beat me up, however my feelings regarding these kinds of kids remain the same!

OF COURSE you'll defend them no matter what! I woudl do the exact same! I woudl be like you!

However, in this I am on the other side of the fence, and to me it doesn't really matter if it's your children or someone elses - I find often DOs are ised as excuses, nothing more!

my posts didn't eman to single you out, raven! I don't know you or your kids! But since you brought up that subject, I took you post to voice my opinion about such "deseases" in general!

Originally Posted by Dorothy

no.

Originally Posted by ravenscape

Fair enough. I wouldn't beat you up -- your opinion can't harm my kids. And since I haven't ever beaten up anyone who was in a position where their opinion could and even did harm my kids, I've obviously gotten good at not taking it personally whether meant personally or not.

Originally Posted by Polycarp1

It makes perfect sense to me. A member asks why her post was deleted by a moderator, possibly Michelina but obviously (there being no contact or no explanation) which one is unknown. No explanation. A discretionary appeal is filed and accepted. Nobody takes any action. That is pressed, the pressing of it is closed, another appeal is made, and the Execs start whining about how busy they are. Maybe if they fucking did their job, which every principle of leadership suggests is to make sure the people working under them do their jobs right, they wouldn't be so busy. And now, the stonewall is that a discretionary appeal is not an appeal as of right.

God! If someone asks for information, and it's determined to stonewall the answer, just say so. If someone asks for mercy (discretion) and it's granted, the excuse that they have no right to the mercy is a piss-poor one. Of course they don't; that's why it's mercy. Jeffrey would have been completely within his rights to deny a discretionary appeal. He is totally out to lunch in thinking that, having granted it, he can now say it's not an appeal as of right.

I have a new set of CF rules, that are more accurate:

1. You may post what we want to allow.
2. If you post something else, we'll edit or delete it.
3. What we feel like allowing is completely at our discretion.
4. We may tell you why we edited or deleted it, but don't count on it.
5. If we don't feel like doing so, you have no right to know.
6. Don't criticize us; we're in charge.
7. If you disagree with any of this, you're welcome to leave. Otherwise, see Rules 1-6 for your rights.

Originally Posted by Spherical Time

Try convincing Brent to give up talking about homosexuality some time.

Originally Posted by WhatIsTruth

Really? Are you like Pat Robinson and have personal phone conversations with God????? If not or if you are not God or the freakin' second coming of JESUS don't tell people what God suggests!

Tattoos are art. Art on a different canvas than usual. Life is enhanced by art.

Originally Posted by ravenscape

Fair enough. I wouldn't beat you up -- your opinion can't harm my kids. And since I haven't ever beaten up anyone who was in a position where their opinion could and even did harm my kids, I've obviously gotten good at not taking it personally whether meant personally or not.

Originally Posted by Teshi

No doubt LDs are overdiagnosed in the US, and many of them are exacerbated by the traditional school structure and could be worked around in other environments, but they exist. Period.



Good for you for getting the help your kids need and deserve. Good squeaking, wheel.