Sheshbazzar

Hey dude I'm not the one believing any of this stupid Jebus jackass horse shit, or wasting my life in trying to add even more legendary horse shit to that steaming pile of jackass Jebus horse shit, like you have been.

Been cleaning old horse shit -out- of the stables since I was a child. So I really don't have much affinity to folks like you that go around wasting their lives in seeing how much more legendary jackass Jebus horse shit they can dig up to pile on.

Littlejohn

You must to try it with a good psychiatrist: could perhaps solve all your mental problems!..


Littlejohn S

.

Sheshbazzar

I got no problem, cause I don't believe any of your whores jackass Jesus horse shit.

הללו־יה׃ & ἁλληλου-ϊά

ששבצר העברי

Littlejohn

No, you have serious mental problems...Your mythicist dogmatism it has upset your mind


Littlejohn S

.

Sheshbazzar

Littlejohn

As I imagined......:constern01:


.

Littlejohn

.




"..Of course Jews of the first century would not have any reason to deny a mythical person they had never even heard of..."

And who says this?..You?

Despite the fact that there are clear references to Jesus in pagan texts (Tacitus, Suetonius, Celsus, Lucian of Samosata, etc..), although not numerous, and this for PRECISE HISTORICAL REASONS (*), the 'mythicists', or at least all those that deny the historicity of the character Jesus of Nazareth, absurdly and wrongly they deny such historical evidences. Ditto for the Gnostic testimony: over 70 Gnostic sects in open conflict with 'orthodox' catholicism, and EVERY OF THEM rotating around the figure of Jesus of Nazareth!

Now I do not understand how you can say that ".. person they had never even heard of ..", when in the SACRED texts of the Jews - Talmud and other - NOT just you talks about Jesus (Yeshu ben Stada/Yeshu ben Pandera/Yeshu the son of the prostitute IS JESUS ​​oF NAZARETH!), but also are reported news and issues concerning Jesus and his mother, the which is not found in any Christian text, because, of course, the counterfeiter fathers who founded the catho-christianity (catholic Christianism) you 'forgot' to write into their 'sacred' texts (gospels and other), because, 'maybe', too embarrassing!

"..In the following centuries Jews certainly heard a lot about this mythical Jebus the Jewish god..."

Are you trying to say that the Jews of the early centuries were so stupid, so idiot to be convinced by the crafty catholic foxes who, in the first century of our era, there was a Jew who lived in Palestine but that in fact was never existed?! ... But you with who are believing of talk, with an idiot perhaps??.. Ma va ramengo!..

In the infancy gospels is reported that the father of the Virgin Mary, in such a contest incorrectly called 'Joachim'(**), was very rich and his wife Anna (another fictitious name), was STILL richer of Joachim. Also in the Talmud it is stated that "Miriam, the mother of Ben Stada, was descended from princes and rulers" - another aspect that does NOT appear in any Christian text. Ergo, this shows unequivocally that Jesus' family, like himself also, were well known to the Jews of the first century!

".. Today Jews have more freedom to speak their minds...."

Precisely ... Today the Jews could affirm without fear of have been fiercely persecuted, in the past centuries, because of a Jew 'never' existed ...It results to you that some of them did it? ...


_________________________________

(*) - One of the reasons was due to the fact that the intellectual heathen world (especially the Roman one) was unaware of the existence of a man by the highly charismatic characteristics named Iesus, since the Romans Jesus' contemporaries knew this character with a different name and, above all, with another nickname: namely Chrestos. In addition, the forger fathers of the origins, that is to say those who founded the catho-christianity, they destroyed or made to disappear most of the documents concerning Jesus, his mother and his family, because highly incriminating and absolutely irreconcilable with the catholic-christian orthodox.(Jesus and his mother were anything than saints!)

(**) - actually his REAL name was Joseph: namely the SAME character that the counterfeiter evangelists transform in the unlikely husband of the Virgin Mary and father 'putative' of Jesus. By this, every person of common sense should guess why the counterfeiter evangelists claimed that Joseph NEVER HAD sexual relations with Mary: what absolutely obvious, since he was the father! .. Unfortunately, I can not reveal for now the REAL name of the mother of Mary, namely the wife of Joachim/Joseph, as it is a very important reading key, able to prematurely reveal essential aspects of the 'evangelical' story, which must remain inedited for the moment.


Littlejohn S

.

Sheshbazzar

Littlejohn

Those above listed, constitute evidence in CLEAR about the historical existence of Jesus of Nazareth. They are evidences unsuppressible and ineluctable, because TANGIBLE! ..

Anyone who tries to ignore them to the bitter end, or attempting to empty them of reliability, it shows to be an incurable dogmatic, just like fideists, which believe to the lies of the clergy forger beyond any shred of common sense!

In addition to those listed, there are many other evidences 'encrypted', ie not in 'clear'. In order to take note of such evidence, you must first find the appropriate reading keys, which allow to obtain data useful for reconstruction of the TRUE origins of Christianity, even from sources that currently seem unthinkable, about the possibility of providing useful data.


Littlejohn S

.

Sheshbazzar

Tacitus (c. 56 – 117 CE) Your Jebus of Nazareth, if not entirely mythical, was long dead and gone.
Tacitus never saw any Jebus of Nazareth.
There is nothing that Tacitus could write that would establish your Jebus's characters historicity.

Suetonius (c. 69–122 CE) Your Jebus of Nazareth, if not entirely mythical, was long dead and gone.
Suetonius never saw any Jebus of Nazareth.
There is nothing that Suetonius could write that would establish your Jebus's characters historicity.

CELSUS (c. 178 CE) Your Jebus of Nazareth, if not entirely mythical, was long dead and gone.
Celsus never saw any Jebus of Nazareth.
There is nothing that Celsus could write that would establish your Jebus's characters historicity.

Porphyry (c. 233-305 CE) Your Jebus of Nazareth, if not entirely mythical, was long dead and gone.
Porphyry never saw any Jebus of Nazareth.
There is nothing that Porphyry could write that would establish your Jebus's characters historicity.

Hièrocles -which ever one you intended-, lived in the 2nd century or latter. Your Jebus of Nazareth, if not entirely mythical, was long dead and gone.
Hièrocles never saw any Jebus of Nazareth.
There is nothing that Hièrocles could write that would establish your Jebus's characters historicity.

Julian the Apostate (c. 331-363 CE) Your Jebus of Nazareth, if not entirely mythical, was long dead and gone.
Julian never saw any Jebus of Nazareth.
There is nothing that Julian could write that would establish your Jebus's characters historicity.

Lucian of Samosata (c. 125–180 CE) Your Jebus of Nazareth, if not entirely mythical, was long dead and gone.
Lucian never saw any Jebus of Nazareth.
There is nothing that Lucian could write that would establish your Jebus's characters historicity.

You ought to also realize that you cannot use what Tommaso Campanella, Oral Roberts, Thomas Jefferson, Billy Graham, Antonio Segni or Àngelo Roncalli may have written about Jebus of Nazareth as being your 'evidence' for your characters historicity.

That is a bit vague. WHAT 'Jewish literature' and WHEN was it written? (you seem to have a slight problem with that)

WHEN were these written. Provide evidence of whatever years you may claim.

WHEN did these Gnostic sects write. Provide your evidence that any of these writers ever met Jebus.
You say they were 'all antagonistic to Catholicism'. Did these Catholics of yours exist in the 1st century CE?

You gotta be shitting me. None of these ever met or knew any living Jebus of Nazareth.

I really don't give a flying fig what you do with them.
NONE of them are valid 'sources' for proving that any flesh and blood Jebus of Nazareth ever existed. THEY WEREN"T THERE.

NONE of their writings are any more evidence of the existence a historical Jebus than the horse shit that the Pope writes.

NO THEY DON'T. Not a one of them stands as any evidence for the existence of a person that they NEVER MET, and in most cases were composed of men who lived hundreds of years latter than the mythical Gospel events.

While they might be relable on some matters, on the subject of Jebus of Nazareth they could, like you, at best do no more than repeat hearsay.

Just more of the usual egotistical, ignorant, and useless blah-blah-blah





.