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Old 09-24-2007, 08:08 AM   #51
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Absolutely. So we must reject the claim here that

'The supernatural cannot happen'

until such time as, for the first time in history, convincing evidence is supplied to support it.
But ... That's not how science works
Yes, we've done that.
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You are welcome to do that, but what you cannot do thereby is prove that the supernatural cannot happen. In other words, you don't know that what you say is true. As far as others are concerned, it may be mere wishful thinking.
Russell's Celestial Teapot.
Same argument.
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Old 09-24-2007, 08:15 AM   #53
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But ... That's not how science works
Yes, we've done that.
Then what are you going on about? :huh:

In the realm of science (and thereby, reason), the supernatural does not exist because there is no solid evidence for it.

Produce the evidence, and science (and thereby reason) will analyze it.



Until then, point, set, match. :wave:
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You are welcome to do that, but what you cannot do thereby is prove that the supernatural cannot happen. In other words, you don't know that what you say is true. As far as others are concerned, it may be mere wishful thinking.
Russell's Celestial Teapot.
Same argument.
'I say that I cannot prove that there is not a God, I ought to add equally that I cannot prove that there are not the Homeric gods.'

Argument by ridicule. Oh the deep, deep shame.
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Yes, we've done that.
Then what are you going on about? :huh:
Sorry, the science argument was dealt with in another thread. The supernatural is not susceptible to scientific method.
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'I say that I cannot prove that there is not a God, I ought to add equally that I cannot prove that there are not the Homeric gods.'

Argument by ridicule. Oh the deep, deep shame.
you miss the point
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'I say that I cannot prove that there is not a God, I ought to add equally that I cannot prove that there are not the Homeric gods.'

Argument by ridicule. Oh the deep, deep shame.
you miss the point
Then don't give links as arguments. It's poor debating.
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Then don't give links as arguments. It's poor debating.
I'm not "debating" you. I don't think it's worth it. I'm just pointing out that your arguments have been thoroughly and elegantly dealt with by others who have more patience with such nonsense than I do.
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Then don't give links as arguments. It's poor debating.
I'm not "debating" you. I don't think it's worth it. I'm just pointing out that your arguments have been thoroughly and elegantly dealt with by others who have more patience with such nonsense than I do.
That is so very easy to write in lieu of fact and reason.
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I'm not "debating" you. I don't think it's worth it. I'm just pointing out that your arguments have been thoroughly and elegantly dealt with by others who have more patience with such nonsense than I do.
That is so very easy to write in lieu of fact and reason.
As are your vapid insults.

Deal with the Russell argument; tell us why it doesn't apply to your argument for accepting possibilities for which there is no evidence, or even reason to suspect.
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