kaleidescope

debating astrology would take about as much time as it would to debate the existence of God or lack there of in this forum. So here i go a little at a time.
For starters i believe if it exists, it surely has a purpose, size and distance does not matter.
The moon controls the tides and when the moon is full, driving habits.
then surely the moon has other influences on life. As sure so too do the other planets.

Mageth

1. I was born under a "No Parking" sign. (My birth date fits under the astrological classification of "Virgo", FWIW, which is nothing).

2. The death of my brother.

3. Sad. I miss him (but life goes on).

4. The birth, and adoption, of my son.

5. Happy. I love him.

McD

non sequitur. It does not logically follow that if something exists it has a 'purpose'.
hmmm... I have heard all of my life that when the moon is full pregnant women are more likely to go into labor, crime rates go up, etc. I have heard this all my life, but never from a reputable source.

If it is true, I am sure there is a naturalistic explanation.
This also is a non sequitur. If the gravitational pull of the moon directly effects our lives, it does not necessarily follow that the gravitational pull of the other planets affect our lives as well.

Furthermore, the gravitational pull of you and me on one another is far greater than the gravitational pull of Mars on either one of us.

Agnostic Theist

Furthermore, the gravitational pull of you and me on one another is far greater than the gravitational pull of Mars on either one of us.

Are you asking him on a date?

:thumbs:

OK, I just saw this but it's not worth a new thread.

The number 666 for the beast is apparently 616 in some manuscripts.

Any theologians wanna comment?

McD

:rolling:

I wouldn't have caught that!

I think it's a 'her' :love:

kaleidescope

One of us isn't logical and of course I would place you the accused and you would place me the accused.
So on to what i consider to be evidence that astrology is not a crock.
Where I work, I have two friends with the exact same birthday, month, day, year and I am just a little younger (in this physical incarnation) than them. and there were two guys also who had the exact same b-day.
why just the other day, i asked a guy, are you aries? sure enough...
So far, I find scorpions, those in my life and the few that have posted here to have pretty harsh lives. I'm sure there are exceptions to this since celestial influence comes from many sources. I find that if your birth chart contains a small obtuse triangle, this typically signifies hardship. It's supposed to be a great thing to have a big triangle in your birth chart. My daughter has one, yah! Time will tell. I've read pisceans contain the oldest souls, I agree. I am a she. i consider nothing a coincidence.

McD

I don't even know how to respond to this. If you are an adult and believe in astrology, there is no help for you.

Queen of Swords

If you wish to show that this was more than just a guess - or knowledge of the guy's birth date - you could try telling me my sun sign.

Heurismus

Ok I'll lighten up and cut you some slack. The critical ie. non ridiculing posts are valid challenges. As to my answers I, gave them honestly. My profile gives my date of birth and I was born at 0853 in Yeovil, Somerset England.

If you can deduce anything from that then you could identify my characteristics. Without giving any details you could ask for my own opinions of myself in specific areas. We could then deposit both sets of answers with an adjudicator and we could then let them decide whether there are any similarities.

Don't feel hurt by some of the extreme scepticism you may encounter here, and that goes for the rest of you who may feel kaleidoscope was unfairly ribbed. I just feel that people rely too much on placebos such as God, instead of accepting life as it is 'nasty, brutish and short' to paraphrase a famous 17th century philosopher. The religious connection is very strong too after all Hitler used astrology to conduct warfare and he was a Christian.

MollyMac

With respect, kaleidescope, nothing you say in the above quote lives up to the promise implied in the first sentence. OK, this is what you consider to be evidence, but that does rather beg the question of why the standard of proof you demand is so low. So two people where you work were born on the same day? So what? Some of the scorpions (sic) you've met have what you consider to be "harsh lives"? Are you serious?? This cannot by any stretch of the imagination be seriously considered evidence.

There is no evidence whatsoever for astrology. Following it is, at best, an amusing and harmless pastime though in my personal experience people who buy into this BS are inexcusably rude: e.g. thinking it's perfectly OK to disturb me while I'm doing the crossword in the newspaper so that they can read their horoscope - and everyone else's too! - and engaging in moronic exchanges such as:

"What sign are you?"
"Scorpio"
"Oh so you're (insert derogotary adjective of your choice here)"

But the bottom line is that astrology is a con, it's a deception; Because of it, vulnerable people part with their money and make stupid and harmful decisions.

You haven't actually said what your purpose in this thread is but if it is to prove or defend astrology then you are going to have to do rather better than this:
This is arrant nonsense. Please present evidence, not barmy unsupported assumptions!
Why the hell not?